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Ivan The Awesome

Instant-Impact Rookies article on NFL.com

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Ah, anybody else remember before the draft when half this forum was against Kuechly despite the fact it was evident to anybody how good of a talent he was?

Not calling out anyone in this thread in particular. I actually don't even know if anybody in this thread was against him or not. Just find it odd that I haven't seen an anti-Kuechly post since.

I was one of the people that thought taking Kuechly at 9 was a reach and still do with the same void at CB2 and UT. Still we drafted him and I will support him as long as he is on the team. Hell I hated the AE trade and I still support him.

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just hope kuechly is the answer to the TE's in our division

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I disagree. Alexander is going to be rotational, so any impact he has is going to be a bonus. Adams just has to field the punts and not fumble, and we still make the playoffs. If Silatolu plays like a rookie, we put Pollak in and still make the playoffs. Also, even if Kuechly doesn't make an immediate impact, we have 3 other starting caliber LBs in Davis, Beason and Anderson.

Really the only person on that list who needs to make an immediate impact for us to make a run at the playoffs, is Josh Norman in my opinion.

We need all these guys to come up big to make the playoffs.I think you are being over confident to think Davis and Beason will be heal and back to their old selves.Josh covering Smitty in shorts is no indication of what things will be at full speed with the pads on.

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I was one of the people that thought taking Kuechly at 9 was a reach and still do with the same void at CB2 and UT. Still we drafted him and I will support him as long as he is on the team. Hell I hated the AE trade and I still support him.

I understand why people did not want another lb with our 9th pick.If he turns out to be a probowl player it will look more like the right pick.If Beason Davis and Anderson remain healthy it may look less like the right pick.My opinion is if he can cover the TEs and running backs in the passing game that will serve our defense better than the 2nd rated cb in the draft would have. We will have to wait and see.

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I firmly believe this draft will go down as the best draft in franchise history, not counting Cam of course.

While it is way too early to tell there will a number of guys who get a chance to start or play significant minutes. As for best draft ever as you noted, it will hard to beat last year because Cam alone made it great. Still the 2001 draft where we drafted Smith, Morgan and Kris Jenkins will be hard to beat. Given how much Weinke has helped Newton so far, that pick may be much better for what he could do after he retired for us then when he played here.

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It is ridiculous that people are still voicing concerns about Kuechly as our pick. Rivera who is a defensive genius had his choice of a number of corners, tackles and other defensive players and he chose Kuechly. He has said that our tackle position is solid and is likely to bring in another corner if the ones we have don't produce.

He is listed in an article today as an instant impact rookie, Beason said he is way ahead of where Beason was at the same point as a rookie, and is praised by one an all.

What makes any of you think you are smarter than Rivera or Beason????

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It is ridiculous that people are still voicing concerns about Kuechly as our pick. Rivera who is a defensive genius had his choice of a number of corners, tackles and other defensive players and he chose Kuechly. He has said that our tackle position is solid and is likely to bring in another corner if the ones we have don't produce.

He is listed in an article today as an instant impact rookie, Beason said he is way ahead of where Beason was at the same point as a rookie, and is praised by one an all.

What makes any of you think you are smarter than Rivera or Beason????

We're football fans, we know everything.

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They put Norman on Smitty and he didn't sink. So people are jumping on that. When your CB position is seen as a weak link, you tend to get excited when a young CB comes in and looks the part.

I truly believe this was a brilliant move by Rivera. Throw the kid at Smitty during basically glorified walk throughs. If he looks good, as he seemed too, then he gets a jolt of confindence moving forward. He may jump back into training with a renewed confidence. It may be a smart move in the long run. Or, he could go the other way and think he has it made. From what little I know this kid is a worker, so I am leaning toward working and learning.

If Norman is as smart as he seems to be talented. We may have found a nugget there in the 5th.

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We need all these guys to come up big to make the playoffs.I think you are being over confident to think Davis and Beason will be heal and back to their old selves.Josh covering Smitty in shorts is no indication of what things will be at full speed with the pads on.

I agree that Norman is unproven. All I was saying is that with Silatolu and Kuechly, we have vets that can start in place of them if need be, namely Pollak and Davis respectively. I would argue that we could still make the playoffs with Pollak and Davis starting, so we don't need all of our rookies to come up big. Sitting behind veterans and learning the game could go a long way for a player like Amini. Really, I think the rookie we need the most out of to be successful is Norman.

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Honestly if you are counting on more than one or 2 rookies to come in and play big in order to make the playoffs, you are likely to be watching not playing come February. You need your leaders and veterans to play big in order to make the playoffs. Anything you get from your rookies is surely welcome but you can't count on all your draft picks to step up, it just doesn't happen. Honestly I think that we could be fine whether or not any of the rookies really step up.

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