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The illusion of needing another WR

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I am going to say it and I know it is going to hurt some of your feelings. Steve Smith is not going to last forever. When he is too old to be the Smitty we all remember, who is going to be there to take his place? Adams? Gettis? Lefell? Pilares? None of these individuals are close to Smitty's skill set. This is why we need to bring in someone who can eventually be the new #1. None of these players are that. I look around our division and I see a lot of talent at WR and we have Smitty and......... a few plug and play recievers.

Smitty will not last forever. He has said himself he doesn't want to be our #1 reciever anymore. Heaven forbid (knock on wood) something were to happen to him. Our offense is great. With another serious playmaker at WR, we could be one of the greatest of all time.

ummm...the Saints* have been using plug and play receivers for years now. it's the system and the QB that makes them prolific. there is nothing all that special about their particular skill set. the falcons have roddy and julio...ok, they're good. not as good as smitty, but still better than anyone else we have. who else do they have. though? and the bucs? THE BUCS?????? sorry...not buying anyone there being much better than lafell. with their QB i'm not sure it matters anyway.

point is...it's a lot of panic and concern for nothing. imo, i think we have the right WRs for what we do. what do we do? simply put, we dominate on offense. what more do you need?

let the WRs we have grow. let them grow in the position. grow in the system. grow with their growing QB. the talent is there, imo.

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That makes about as much sense as waiting until Steve smith retires to replade him. You are so witty.

i don't ever want to replade him. or do i? i don't know....i'm so confused.

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Rayzor you are a great poster but a huge homer.

You can put those ear muffs back on now, sorry we upset you.

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All of this is great theory, but, I want another veteran WR who I know demands the immediate respect of the opposition on the field to act as a counterbalance to keep defenses from teeing off on 89. I tend to believe my eyes for the last few years---including last year---that our offense would have been that much more effective and efficient had teams had to worry on mostly every down that any WR not named Smith would take it to the house. If you look at Smitty's stats, they were out of this world the first half of the year and very much pedestrian the second half of the season. I can hear you saying (yeah, but) that's when we won, but if you actually look at who we were winning against versus who we lost to during the later part of 2011, you will see that the teams that had viable threats at the WR1 and WR2 positions were the ones that beat us. This is not an illusion. Moreover, I can make an argument that the way that NFL offenses have evolved during the last few years, that you are not going to seal the deal with a championship without viable and respected threats at WR...You may get close, but you are just not gonna seize the Lombardi without having two down-field threats at WR who can and will break down the defensive schemes of the opposition at the end of the day in this modern era of the NFL. The team with the other guy(s) becomes champion.

Now, this is not to say, that perhaps Brandon LaFell, David Gettis, or even Joe Adams, can't become that other guy, but is it worth betting the house over, especially when Smitty's window of opportunity is closing. He isn't Superman, you know. Moreover, if Steve Smith were to get hurt, do you really believe that LaFell, Gettis, Adams, Olsen or Tolbert can effectively make up for that loss? If you do, then that's delusional. No one can make up for that loss, but adding another proven WR who defenses know that they must account for would certainly smooth things over. We all have seen a sampling of what a Smitty-less offense looks like---an offense that has a bunch of 600 and 700 yard ceiling wide-outs---and it's not pretty. This is also while having an A-grade running game, with and without a respectable presence at QB. It's like driving a performance car with a bad catalytic converter.

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Wait didn't you hear how many receivers we already have top dawg? Their practically growing on trees!

How many of them outside of Steve Smith are proven you ask? Well... umm... let's see here...

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Rayzor you are a great poster but a huge homer.

You can put those ear muffs back on now, sorry we upset you.

???

you wouldn't have been saying that for the last few years we had fox.

or the last couple years we were forcing jake to play when we should have moved on.

or the last couple years we were running davis and foster....or when we had foster as the starter...i could go on.

i like the direction we are going, finally. i think we have what will become a championship team. i feel good about what's going on here. how is that a bad thing? that automatically makes me a homer? aside from DT (which i'm not one that thinks we are anywhere close to being set and wish we had done more), and cb (which i'm a bit more optimistic in but still don't feel comfortable with) and safety (which i really don't feel good about and hope that they just don't suck) i think we are in a good place, esp. for growth, which is what i have wanted for years.

if that makes me a homer...whatever. i think it's just being a fan of the team and the direction we're going. if i'm supposed to be more negative and bitchy about things to not be a homer, i think i'd rather be a homer. i did enough bitching before rivera and cam got here. the panthers are doing what i was hoping they would do. why can't i feel good about that?

meh....

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All of this is great theory, but, I want another veteran WR who I know demands the immediate respect of the opposition on the field to act as a counterbalance to keep defenses from teeing off on 89.

how does one become a vet like that? not sure but i think they've got to develop or something like that...you know, get experience? learn? grow?

you don't find vets like that in FA very often and even at that, they are usually short term vets. i'm more interested in a long term solution and you just aren't likely to find that in FA, esp when you're working with a budget.

we don't need a singular player who demands the respect of the opposition opposite smitty because of the system and the guy throwing the ball and the multiple options he has in any given play.

would it be nice and beneficial to have someone else like that? sure. it's not completely essential for this team to dominate, though. i'm willing to sit back and see if one or two of the guys we have on the roster right now can grow into that. i actually believe that lafell is that guy and that this year we will see him garnering that kind of respect, but...with so many receiving options out on the field all the time and the amount of personnel defenses have to use to try and keep cam contained, we just aren't going to see any other person other than smitty get double teamed. they just can't afford to do that.

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I believe this season will be a good tell about the talent we have at WR. I am not opposed to throwing as many WR's to the fire this preseason to see which players shake out though. If we make it through the year, and a clear #2 doesn't surface, I believe we need to make a move in the draft. I do not believe our future #1 WR is on the team right now.

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???

you wouldn't have been saying that for the last few years we had fox.

or the last couple years we were forcing jake to play when we should have moved on.

or the last couple years we were running davis and foster....or when we had foster as the starter...i could go on.

i like the direction we are going, finally. i think we have what will become a championship team. i feel good about what's going on here. how is that a bad thing? that automatically makes me a homer? aside from DT (which i'm not one that thinks we are anywhere close to being set and wish we had done more), and cb (which i'm a bit more optimistic in but still don't feel comfortable with) and safety (which i really don't feel good about and hope that they just don't suck) i think we are in a good place, esp. for growth, which is what i have wanted for years.

if that makes me a homer...whatever. i think it's just being a fan of the team and the direction we're going. if i'm supposed to be more negative and bitchy about things to not be a homer, i think i'd rather be a homer. i did enough bitching before rivera and cam got here. the panthers are doing what i was hoping they would do. why can't i feel good about that?

meh....

The homer bit was tongue in cheek like your spell correct, I am one too at times. No biggie.

Of course I am optimistic about our current team and future, I only want us to be the best. That doesn't mean though that I have to ignore perceived weaknesses.

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