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#1 panthersphan

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:08 PM

No significant changes made in the off-season, besides Kuechly, who looks like a star in the making, but the lack of talent at the DT and DB positions are going to ultimately hinder our chances at winning the big prize...and I could even see it holding us down to a 7-9/8-8 season...

Now the ST coverage? I don't even want to get into that.

But I really see a long season of runs up the middle and deep passes in the 4th quarter that will hold this Panther team back.

Rivera and Hurney need to 100% focus on the D next offseason, bringing in vet. DB talent. I'm over waiting on 3rd round picks (Godfrey, etc) to "come around"... I mean let's face it Godfrey and Martin are just average at best. Not rocket science.

Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I just don't see how one of the worst defenses in the NFL is all of a sudden going to turn on a switch. Yes Beason is coming back along with Ron Edwards and (maybe TD) but they can't carry this defense. Beason, Kuechly, Gamble, Anderson, Johnson, those are the only sure things on that D...too many holes...too many question marks...not enough talent....not enough depth... plain and simple.

Hopefully this reloaded Offense can just stay on the field and carry the team into the playoffs, where anything can happen at that point.

(this has nothing to do with our performance in our first preseason game)

/rant and GO PANTHERS!!!!

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:11 PM

The run defense will be top 15 if Edwards stays healthy, we are adding Beason Keuchly and Edwards to it.
The rest I somewhat agree with.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:13 PM

The run defense will be top 15 if Edwards stays healthy, we are adding Beason Keuchly and Edwards to it.
The rest I somewhat agree with.


How is it gonna be top 15? We tackle like pop Warner 5 year olds, No pressure at all.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:13 PM

You have to have scouting credentials to say anything negative about the team. Prepare to be asked for them.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:15 PM

The run defense will be top 15 if Edwards stays healthy, we are adding Beason Keuchly and Edwards to it.
The rest I somewhat agree with.


Hell, Kuechly looks like a Pro Bowler out there already .. kid is determined and smart..

Think a faster, smarter, less injury prone version of Dan Morgan with better hands. #59 is going to be special...

But Beason is slowing up a bit, it's obvious, and I just hope he (and Edwards for that matter) can make it through the season at full speed and full strength.

Too much riding on a rookie and players coming back from injuries... (especially when one of those players gets a minor injury just when it looks like he may be ready...Beason)

Let's hope I'm wrong... I just have ZERO faith in our Pass Coverage....Zero.

I mean all the names mentioned (Kuechly, Beason, Edwards) don't play the defensive backfield. Godfrey, Martin and Munnerlyn? Oh god!!! Ewwwweeeee

Honestly, I could see some improvement in the Run Defense solely on Kuechly, Beason and Edwards though... let's hope!! (can't be much worse from last year though right?)

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:17 PM

How is it gonna be top 15? We tackle like pop Warner 5 year olds, No pressure at all.


Kuechly-Beason-Anderson


Get over the preseason they were playing zone, we have yet to see what Mcdermott can do with a healthy linebacker core can do.

These mistakes are the reason we have a PRESEASON.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:19 PM

You have to have scouting credentials to say anything negative about the team. Prepare to be asked for them.


Same can be said for the positive remarks. This is the huddle, be a man about it.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

Kuechly - Beason - Anderson

That is a SOLID LB core for sure... and will make our D better.... that part is true...

But how much better? I mean our gapping holes in our D are the talent (or lack thereof) at Safeties and the depth and talent at CB and DT... none of which improved much in 2012

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:21 PM

I do like I do like the fact that Training Camp has been about turnovers for the D... something that changes games and could mask our sub-par DBs and DTs... if we just take the ball away then you can't run up the middle for 7 yards every time : )

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:22 PM

But Beason is slowing up a bit, it's obvious,


Where is this evidence? In all the film of games he's played in since he got hurt? Oh wait, there isn't any......

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:28 PM

Where is this evidence? In all the film of games he's played in since he got hurt? Oh wait, there isn't any......


Beason was a Top 3 LB in the league his first three seasons... Now he's Top 10... He's still a solid asset to any team in the NFL... but he has shown signs of degression in the past 2 seasons (one being a lack luster (for Beason standards) season, the other being a season taken away by injury)

Beason isn't a former shell of himself by anymeans... but he has slipped off the ladder a bit with the likes of Patrick Willis and Clay Matthews...

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

I guess he means Beason was slow while in surgery.. He was real slow last night as well...ugh

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:29 PM

Still crying for a preseason game.... Think someone posted the main 1st stringers gave up 6 POINTS

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:31 PM

Don't really agree with you there. Beason is easily the same skill level as Willis, he just isn't as vaunted because our overall defense sucks. And comparing him to Clay Matthews is silly, Matthews is a glorified standup DE.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:32 PM

Still crying for a preseason game.... Think someone posted the main 1st stringers gave up 6 POINTS



Nope, couldn't care less about the outcome of a preseason game to be honest.

But if you think our DBs and/or DTs are going to help us win more games than lose I think you need to take a better look at the 'talent' we have at those positions.


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