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#46 Snake

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:29 AM

Any GM worth his salt can find cap room. Its why you never see any team in cap hell.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:35 AM

lol if you're worried about this.

everyone in the league has figured out the salary cap. It's not a thing anymore.

#48 Proudiddy

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:38 AM

The cap room isn't the concern IMO. Big spenders still find a way to spend almost every year - Cowboys, Redskins, Philly, etc.

The implications from this is the turnover of the current roster from top to bottom.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:53 AM

All this bad cap situation has been going on for years.

And paying good (NOT GREAT) players these unreal million dollar contracts that are normally reserved for players such as Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher, who actually make a difference on their team, has been Hurneys signature, and is also the reason this team as been so awful.

This is the exact reason Hurney should have been gone years ago. And the only way to fix this mess is to hire someone who knows what there doing. I hope the next GM Richardson hires will be a genious for drafting great players and is a wiz with the salary cap.

#50 Mr. Scot

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

And to think some of you could care less if the next GM has a firm finance background.


Put it this way: I'd rather have a football guy who needs help with the financial aspects than a financial guy who needs help with the football aspects.

Whomever we get, there should be someone in place to help with the flipside of the job.

#51 Who Said What?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

I remember a Huddle just a couple of years ago where doing research or finding an article of this nature would have netted the OP at least 20 pieces of "delicious" pie... That's what the huddle is here for. Instead, you get 2 pieces of not "delicious" pie for posts like these, but you get 10 for a good one liner... The Huddle much like our team has embraced a loser's mentality.

Sure, Pie really doesn't matter... Or it's just the interwebs... But I think we all like to get pie, as it kind of validates the things we say, as in people agree with us on things we say. It'd be nice to get back to the old huddle... And from what I understand... Before I got here it was even better.

Sorry if this post derails this thread, I really am... But if this post changes a few mentalities around here then perhaps it was worth it. Don't pie me for this post either... Instead give it to the guy that started this thread... We all knew the Cap was fugged... He just basically broke it down all in one spot... Sadly for all of us, it looks like this team may get a lot worse before it gets better. So much for high expectations coming into the season huh?


I feel you man. I have followed this board for years and just recently joined. I felt like now it lacks those type of posters. Many of the guys with longevity are dismissive in their posts and do not engage in debate. This is like some sort of amateur comedy show. That is why you see a billion views and no posts. People are not trying to deal with that mularkey.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:01 AM

I remember a Huddle just a couple of years ago where doing research or finding an article of this nature would have netted the OP at least 20 pieces of "delicious" pie... That's what the huddle is here for. Instead, you get 2 pieces of not "delicious" pie for posts like these, but you get 10 for a good one liner... The Huddle much like our team has embraced a loser's mentality.

Sure, Pie really doesn't matter... Or it's just the interwebs... But I think we all like to get pie, as it kind of validates the things we say, as in people agree with us on things we say. It'd be nice to get back to the old huddle...

I feel you man. I have followed this board for years and just recently joined. I felt like now it lacks those type of posters. Many of the guys with longevity are dismissive in their posts and do not engage in debate. This is like some sort of amateur comedy show. That is why you see a billion views and no posts. People are not trying to deal with that mularkey.

you guys taking this stuff too seriously.

And from what I understand... Before I got here it was even better.

wellll..umm......hm.

#53 Who Said What?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:07 AM

What you talking about Rayzor? I seen you going super hard on a debate with maulclaw the last couple of days. It was like twenty posts and you were super heated. We all take it too seriously at times.

#54 King Taharqa

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

#89 will more than likely be gone. Any and everybody thats a vet or Fox guy needs to go. Turn this into Cams team. Cam cant talk to 30 year old vets the way we need him to, and fans dont even hold those guys accountable anymore thanks to the national spotlight on our QB. Clean house, get new faces and fan faves in here.

#55 TruCatzFan

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:14 AM

you guys taking this stuff too seriously.
wellll..umm......hm.


You've been a member here 5 whole months longer than myself... You have over 4 times as many posts as I do...

Don't play that high and mighty card with me brother... This isn't about getting in pissing matches. It's about every one of us being better than we are currently.

#56 beastson

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:20 AM

#89 will more than likely be gone. Any and everybody thats a vet or Fox guy needs to go. Turn this into Cams team. Cam cant talk to 30 year old vets the way we need him to, and fans dont even hold those guys accountable anymore thanks to the national spotlight on our QB. Clean house, get new faces and fan faves in here.


As much as this breaks my heart, I agree

Fox and Hurney left much more than just themselves on this team

#57 DeAngelo's #1 Fan(CRA)

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:20 AM

I almost wonder if the gut the roster part is such a bad thing. This team seems to have an ideological clash in the locker room between the "new, modern, 2012" mentality and some of the "good ole boys" left over from the previous regime.


Can't completely gut it....won't have cap room to bring in real bodies to replace them.

#58 rayzor

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:22 AM

re: subject at hand...

we definitely need some kind of real cap specialist to get stuff straight, but it's not something i'm going to worry about. it isn't as disasterous as it looks. we'll lose some talent, i'm sure, but we'l be able to afford more. hopefully the new GM(s) will have a more balanced approach to team building than hurney and he sure won't have the sense of loyalty that hurney had to players who he had nothing to do with bringing in.

i'm sure that JR wil give him a very short list of guys that he can't touch (which will probaly be limited to cam, smitty, kalil and TD) and will build around the ones that offer the most potential both now and in the immediate future with the smallest cap hit.

i don't know if beason wil restructure, but i hope he does because he's still a good presence to have around the team, imo. and once he gets healed all the way up should be very good for a few more years. i think there's probably a couple others who could restructure as well, but we'll also lose a couple guys as well like dwill and CJ.

point is...as ugly as it is, it's all manageable and i don't have to know how, either because i'm not a finance guy. i'm not a capologist. i just know that there are guys out there who can make it work. other teams have worked with worse messes and gotten them cleaned up. somone wil get this cleaned up as well.

i'm just not worried about it.

#59 TruCatzFan

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:23 AM

lol if you're worried about this.

everyone in the league has figured out the salary cap. It's not a thing anymore.


No, LOL @ you sir...for thinking that everything is all hunky dory. This team will likely look very different next year, and we're probably gonna lose some key personnel and playmakers.

In having said that, you are correct. They will figure it out, no doubt about it. The problem will be who stays vs who goes.

I know that you'll love to counter that we're 1-5 and can stand to lose some people because obviously this isn't working... But that's the wrong answer. Hopefully everyone restructures... But at this point it's kind of hard to believe that they will when other immediate contenders will be able to offer them more. We're about to go through rebuild #2 in as many years... This was unforeseen... Nobody even here thought we'd be 1-5... Not even you

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:29 AM

No, LOL @ you sir...for thinking that everything is all hunky dory. This team will likely look very different next year, and we're probably gonna lose some key personnel and playmakers.


Good

Cut D Will, Cut Beason, draft or pickup CB/WR impact players and we will be a better team


I love them but its time to move on. JMHO


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