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#1 KillerKat

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

Cam Newton was what everyone dreamed he would be last season. He was accurate, showed poise in the pocket, read defenses, and had every skill set a QB needed to succeed in the NFL. So what's the difference from last year to this year. It's not like Cam decided "Oh well hmm Im going to play like poo because I just don't feel it this year."

There are many reasons why Cam has regressed this season. The biggest reason is Chud our OC. He threw out everything that worked last year in favor of the read option AS A BASE OFFENSE. No more professional NFL base offense in Carolina anymore. The read option slows down everything, not allowing Cam to read the defense after the snap, allows defenders extra time to get into the backfield which kills our run game. Which leads me to my next point.

Chud also decided it was a good time not to use our 90 million dollar backfield anymore. We have 2 runningbacks with 1,000 yard a year potential and added another RB that was supposed to boost our running game potential to extreme heights. But no, Chud decided screw that. His philosophy is better than anyone else in the league. Chud's ego is so big he believes anything he calls is unstoppable. How is a 2nd year QB supposed to succeed with no running game what so ever? Cam should've been able to lean on our running game this season to help him succeed, but our OC went full retard.

The third reason is of course Rivera, Hurney, and the coaching staff. How does Cam regress so much as far as mechanics? Why hasn't Cam been allowed to call audibles? The coaching staff is the only reason why. Cam improved throughout the year last season with his mechanics. It's the only conclusion. We also didn't strengthen our line this offseason. Our biggest plan was a rookie and a backup lineman to start at guard for us. Not to mention Gross is wildly inconsistent. As a result, Cam has been forced to run for his life and make 1-2 second decisions because our line can't block.

Yes Cam isn't playing well this season. Part of it is his fault, but very little. Out of 100%, I would say 5% at the most is his fault. He was not given any help at all this season. The front office and coaching staff should've done all they could to help out our second year QB, but they failed. Cam now has to start all over from scratch. Right now what you are seeing is the ending result of all of the reasons I listed above. We won't see the real Cam again until we get a competent coaching staff and can surround him with the players we need in order for him to succeed. Until then, get off Cam's back and stop blaming him for our offensive woes. He is the last person you should bash.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

cam is only 5% to blame for his poor play...haha...got it

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:06 PM

I am not even going to try to read this... Lol

This is the NFL they caught on to he gimmick that is Cam until he learns to be a more
Accurate passer and a better leader.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

Cam was inaccurate last year.......often.

Biggest difference is he played off a consistent rush attack.....opened up his passing attack. Line play and play calling is what is hurting Cam and imploded Double Trouble.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

Cam Newton was what everyone dreamed he would be last season. He was accurate, showed poise in the pocket, read defenses, and had every skill set a QB needed to succeed in the NFL. So what's the difference from last year to this year. It's not like Cam decided "Oh well hmm Im going to play like poo because I just don't feel it this year."

There are many reasons why Cam has regressed this season. The biggest reason is Chud our OC. He threw out everything that worked last year in favor of the read option AS A BASE OFFENSE. No more professional NFL base offense in Carolina anymore. The read option slows down everything, not allowing Cam to read the defense after the snap, allows defenders extra time to get into the backfield which kills our run game. Which leads me to my next point.

Chud also decided it was a good time not to use our 90 million dollar backfield anymore. We have 2 runningbacks with 1,000 yard a year potential and added another RB that was supposed to boost our running game potential to extreme heights. But no, Chud decided screw that. His philosophy is better than anyone else in the league. Chud's ego is so big he believes anything he calls is unstoppable. How is a 2nd year QB supposed to succeed with no running game what so ever? Cam should've been able to lean on our running game this season to help him succeed, but our OC went full retard.

The third reason is of course Rivera, Hurney, and the coaching staff. How does Cam regress so much as far as mechanics? Why hasn't Cam been allowed to call audibles? The coaching staff is the only reason why. Cam improved throughout the year last season with his mechanics. It's the only conclusion. We also didn't strengthen our line this offseason. Our biggest plan was a rookie and a backup lineman to start at guard for us. Not to mention Gross is wildly inconsistent. As a result, Cam has been forced to run for his life and make 1-2 second decisions because our line can't block.

Yes Cam isn't playing well this season. Part of it is his fault, but very little. Out of 100%, I would say 5% at the most is his fault. He was not given any help at all this season. The front office and coaching staff should've done all they could to help out our second year QB, but they failed. Cam now has to start all over from scratch. Right now what you are seeing is the ending result of all of the reasons I listed above. We won't see the real Cam again until we get a competent coaching staff and can surround him with the players we need in order for him to succeed. Until then, get off Cam's back and stop blaming him for our offensive woes. He is the last person you should bash.


Loads of fail in this post but I've bolded a complete factual error. On average Cam has 3.52 seconds in the pocket before he is sacked. That is the 11th longest in the league.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:11 PM

I am not even going to try to read this... Lol

This is the NFL they caught on to he gimmick that is Cam until he learns to be a more
Accurate passer and a better leader.


You do realize the gimmick offense is the one the Panthers are running THIS year not last.....

#7 GhostofMosul

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:11 PM

true but the oline cant block forever and he takes too long to pass the ball. thats coaching...

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:14 PM

I agree there are a lot of reasons our offense is bad but no way any QB is only 5% responsible for his play

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:21 PM

I agree there are a lot of reasons our offense is bad but no way any QB is only 5% responsible for his play


I find it hard to put much blame on a 2nd year QB that was left out to dry with no help

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

He's very Tim Couch-like today

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:30 PM

He has 10 interceptions. Giving him 5% of the blame means only half of an interception was on him. Yeah he could get a lot more help. But to give him almost no responsibilty for exectution is insane.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:33 PM

He's very Tim Couch-like today


Wow. Just wow.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:36 PM

Wow. Just wow.


Quit trying to bait me on all my posts, punk. Look at his stat line so far. I watched a lot of the Browns and Couch back in the day and he had a lot of halves like this. I love Cam and all but I am objective.

You need to stop harassing me constantly, you're just acting like a punk.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:41 PM

Loads of fail in this post but I've bolded a complete factual error. On average Cam has 3.52 seconds in the pocket before he is sacked. That is the 11th longest in the league.


I like stats with more substance. Does that stat include pressures and hits? I can see that Cam gets pressured a lot just by watching the games. According to football outsiders, our pass protection is 24th in the league. They use adjusted sack rate.

Adjusted Sack Rate (ASR)/Sack Rate: Sack Rate represents sacks divided by pass plays, which include passes, sacks, and aborted snaps. It is a better measure of pass blocking than total sacks because it takes into account how often an offense passes the ball. Adjusted Sack Rate adds adjustments for opponent quality, as well as down and distance (sacks are more common on third down, especially third-and-long


http://www.footballo...rs.com/stats/ol

They also have our run blocking as 31st.

So tell me how does this help our QB?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:51 PM

Quit trying to bait me on all my posts, punk. Look at his stat line so far. I watched a lot of the Browns and Couch back in the day and he had a lot of halves like this. I love Cam and all but I am objective.

You need to stop harassing me constantly, you're just acting like a punk.


Change your username and root your team on. Cam is the only reason we're in this thing right now.

I seriously can't tell if you're just a huge troll or if you actually don't understand the game.


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