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#1 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

So, we all look at the Draft and the needs we have right now. OG, OT, WR, S, CB, etc. But, how will that all change if we switch defensive schemes to a 34 system.

Now, before everyone freaks out, it's entirely possible that we do switch to the 34. If you bring in a guy like Bruce Arians (who I really want), you will get a defensive coordinator along the lines of Keith Butler (if you can pull him away from Pittsburgh) who knows nothing but a 34, zone-blitz system. David Shaw, who a lot of people here are crazy over, a guy like Derek Mason or Randy Hart could come with Shaw, both of whom know a 34 system.

The list goes on: Vic Fangio, Russ Grimm, Ray Horton, Keith Butler, Winston Moss, all of these guys have taught a 34 system or have been apart of teams with 34 systems (meaning they would probably bring guys with them that change our team to the 34.)

If we were to switch to a 34, what would our needs look like? We would obviously need a pass rusher on the outside, from the Ryan Kerrigan OLB position. We would need another ILB, to go along with the coverage skills of Kuechly. We would need DEs to fit the system.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

No need for another ILB. Got Kuechly and Beason. Then CJ and Hardy become worthless to us. They can't transition to full time OLBs. And both are to good at passrushing to be wasted as 5 techs. Basically we'd have to get rid of some guys and hope we could fill all the spots through FA or the draft. Our D would most likely take a step back. Don't like the idea. Our D is a couple players away from being very good, as is.

#3 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 12:49 PM

No need for another ILB. Got Kuechly and Beason. Then CJ and Hardy become worthless to us. They can't transition to full time OLBs. And both are to good at passrushing to be wasted as 5 techs. Basically we'd have to get rid of some guys and hope we could fill all the spots through FA or the draft. Our D would most likely take a step back. Don't like the idea. Our D is a couple players away from being very good, as is.


I'm not sure I like the idea either, but a lot of the free agent coaches are 34 guys or will bring in 34 guys.

It's definitely something to think about.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

switching to a 3-4 would only put this team even further behind. Ideally I liked to hire an offensive minded head coach that can develop a qb and keep Rivera as DC. that would keep continuity on defense and give us a great coordinator

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:23 PM

Changing now is completely unnecessary because we have versatile players like CJ and Hardy. I don't care which scheme a team uses, if they can get to the QB with four men rushing and sometimes three, you shouldn't mess with it. Blitzing may be "cool" but it's better to send less people if you can.


The defense is pretty much a hybrid at this point. Add an all-around dominant DT and their three man rush is going to be deadly.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

Jarvis Jones duh

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:18 AM

I think it's doable now with Beason and Luke. CJ could play the 9 and Hardy the 5, you could also use TD and his speed as a rush OLB. Ware doesn't do anything that our DE's can't do.

We could draft someone like T'eo, or Jarvis Jones to make it even better. However, I think we'd have a hole at the 0. Hankins could play the 0 I think, Star looks more like a 3 to me.

My primary concern is finding a free safety and then replacing Ron Edwards. If Gamble is gone then I think that's another need, but I like our top 3 CB's right now and think we'd be ok with another year under their belts.

On offense I see RG as the top need and WR 2/eventual WR1 as a very close second. I'm hoping Amini adjusts at solidifies the LF spot and if so, I think that will help Gross. I like Hangartner but he was not very good at RG and would be better as our top interior back up.


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