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[The Original SCP]

If Rivera stays, Chud stays.

[Anybodyhome]

Fug No!

"This is why I want us to fire Rivera, I don't want to become San Diego of the East."

Personally, I wouldn't mind being the "Chargers of the East." The San Diego Chargers under Norv Turner have done better then the Panthers have the last 5 seasons.
2007: 10-6 playoffs (Carolina 7-9)
2008: 8-8 playoffs (Carolina 12-4)
2009: 13-3 playoffs (Carolina 8-8)
2010: 9-7 (Carolina 2-14)
2011: 8-8 (Carolina 6-10)

Yeah, no way would the Panthers want to bring in someone who actually won 67% of their games over a 5-season stretch and going to the playoffs 3 times in 5 seasons....

Sure 2012 is gong to be bad for the Chargers, but what did you expect when the San Diego Union Tribune publishes an article saying Turner and GM A. J. Smith will both be fired after the season.

[rayzor]

Personally, I wouldn't mind being the "Chargers of the East." The San Diego Chargers under Norv Turner have done better then the Panthers have the last 5 seasons.
2007: 10-6 playoffs (Carolina 7-9)
2008: 8-8 playoffs (Carolina 12-4)
2009: 13-3 playoffs (Carolina 8-8)
2010: 9-7 (Carolina 2-14)
2011: 8-8 (Carolina 6-10)

Yeah, no way would the Panthers want to bring in someone who actually won 67% of their games over a 5-season stretch and going to the playoffs 3 times in 5 seasons....

Sure 2012 is gong to be bad for the Chargers, but what did you expect when the San Diego Union Tribune publishes an article saying Turner and GM A. J. Smith will both be fired after the season.

bars not really set too high there.

i don't want to settle for just better than we were.

[magnus]

Wrong on so many points

tell me more about that, then, since it's not 'wrong'.

[magnus]

More than one team of late has had a "run game coordinator" and a "passing game coordinator" (didn't Fox give McCoy that title?) And of course there's the ever popular "assistant head coach" title as well.

That said, while I wouldn't mind seeing some changes in the assistant lineup (would love to have Juan Castillo, Dave Toub or Bobby April on board) I tend to agree that if Rivera stays, hi staff will likely stay largely intact.

sure, I dig the split coordinator thing, and it's a way of making something happen. It props up the assistant head coach/experienced coach thing Rivera talked about last week. But Norv's not going to be a position coach and McCoy (or modern equivalent with Steve Wilks) had a position.

Definitely Bobbly April. Toub re-upped, and I don't see Lovie getting fired. I'd really rather not stay with Rodgers. I guess there's always Wannstedt if/when Chan goes (and Belin leaves for college, since he's been decent), but I don't really like Wannstedt much. Castillo would be very good - I still believe Rivera's recommendation may have led Castillo to be promoted, given its proximity to Reid offering up McDermott.

So, I don't know. It'd be interesting, but Norv seems like a longshot, and it's the same offense minus the stuff put in for Cam (which won't change, and doesn't need to change - it just needs less use).

[JawnyBlaze]

Rivera: HC/DC (McDermott can be an Assistant DC or something...)
Norv: OC
Chud: TE coach/Assistant OC

I can dig it. Obviously it's just a reshuffle of the Chargers coaching staff a few years ago, but that was when the Chargers were top 3 in both offense and defense and only ST kept them from being a dominant team. With the talent we have, that coaching staff can succeed. Bringing in someone like Norv or someone else of a similar experience level to help out is about the only way I'd be ok with Rivera staying.

[beach]

You must have missed the first 12 games if the season.
Am I missing something? Is there an Irish folk legend that if you gather enough losers, magical winning happens?

I'm referring to his SD days

No...just so much no...

And once again what is with everyone and fauria? He's 6'7, what else? Nothing, I watched him every Saturday.

Ok...great to hear....

And all I did was mention a tall athletic TE. He's a draft prospect who's been mentioned a lot, who do you want? Regardless, we're just throwing sh*t at the wall but you can continue to be the guy throwing sh*t at the people throwing sh*t

[Mr. Scot]

sure, I dig the split coordinator thing, and it's a way of making something happen. It props up the assistant head coach/experienced coach thing Rivera talked about last week. But Norv's not going to be a position coach and McCoy (or modern equivalent with Steve Wilks) had a position.

Definitely Bobbly April. Toub re-upped, and I don't see Lovie getting fired. I'd really rather not stay with Rodgers. I guess there's always Wannstedt if/when Chan goes (and Belin leaves for college, since he's been decent), but I don't really like Wannstedt much. Castillo would be very good - I still believe Rivera's recommendation may have led Castillo to be promoted, given its proximity to Reid offering up McDermott.

So, I don't know. It'd be interesting, but Norv seems like a longshot, and it's the same offense minus the stuff put in for Cam (which won't change, and doesn't need to change - it just needs less use).

I don't ultimately see Smith getting fired either, though there has been some talk he's on the hot seat.

Given some of Rivera's recent comments (if he's retained) I'm not necessarily betting he'll dump Matsko, but I'd rather have Castillo.

Likewise, he might not bail on is old teammate, but I'd prefer Rodgers go back to being an assistant to someone like Bobby April.

Turner? Like you, I don't think Chudzinski gets his walking papers or gets demoted if Rivera stays. You could make an argument for it but I doubt it happens. But remind me, wasn't Turner a 'consultant' in SF before he got a full time job? Regardless, that's a role I could see him playing.

Truthfully though, I think someone will offer him a full blown OC job. It just might not be us.

[Kurb]

Turner could be QB coach and send Shula packing.
*shrug*

Likely they all get fired anyways.

[beach]

Kurb, I just don't know about that haha

I don't want Rivera here personally but I just think he's retained and I really don't have a problem with it. It's actually kind of a tough decision for the new GM. Ross, Gettleman, Gamble, someone will be coming in and evaluating the situation at hand...it's as much as a toss up imo as there's ever been here.

[Louie]

Bring in Norv Turner for OC and let Chud be the ST coach.

[Mr. Scot]

Bring in Norv Turner for OC and let Chud be the ST coach.

Pretty sure he has no experience at that.

[CatMan72]

Norv is a good OC, but I'm not sure it would be in our best interests to change at this point.

[Louie]

Pretty sure he has no experience at that.

I bet hes better than Brian Murphy.

[GoCarolina8990]

No...just so much no...

And once again what is with everyone and fauria? He's 6'7, what else? Nothing, I watched him every Saturday.

You can do things with a 6'7 body in the NFL that's tallest guy on the field in most games, a skill position at that. Don't want though. Just defending that being as tall as he is someone is going to make something out of that.