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nakamura not in the mix...florence a favorite?


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Campbell and Mitchell are good tacklers. Mitchell slammed the hell our of Cam (late tho) last season. I wouldnt say many safties in the league could do that. Hell a lot of DLmen have trouble taking him down.

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We need to hope for a Asante Samuel situation during training camp for some other team,and grab a decent corner for a 7th rounder next year.

What CBs do you think could become available???

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florence will start out the season as the starter.

i expect things to be better in the secondary, but mainly with the overall D.

Whoops. Meant to give you +rep. My bad

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No, if Florence is starting for us week 1 that means hes won the job and has something left in the tank (which I think he does) people just don't fugging get how good our pass rush and run defense is going to be.

 

Like others have stated before, Packers when they won the SB had won of the worst pass defenses ever. Same with New England. If you don't have a stud secondary that doesn't mean you cant have a stud team.

 

Bucs have a lot better secondary than us, but I sure as fug bet we win more games this season

 

Their opponents had a 56 completion %, 3100 yards, 16 TDs, and 24 INTs. Pretty sure you're confusing the years.

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Whoops. Meant to give you +rep. My bad

 

lol don't worry about it.

 

for some reason i checked it a couple days ago just out of curiousity and there was a lot there. not sure what good it does, but there's a lot of it.

 

btw, i noticed that someone neg reps me every chance they get. not sure what i did to piss in their cheerios but i'm sure it was their fault for having their cheerios so close to where i pee.

 

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BPA is cloudy...I think grabbing short was more if a precaution to ensure our DT spot improved. Draft one DT and you hope you improved but the bust rate is high....2 increases your odds you just gained talent to trend upwards.

4. We had the best pass rush last year....and QBs completed a higher percentage against is than any team. So talent simply has to improve

 

I believe that Gettleman saw development in the young guys on our roster last season.  I expect we will go into camp with what we have and let the true evaluation occur then.  If he is happy with what he sees with the young guys development, we will go into the season with them.  He could very easily add a vet guy i fhe does not like what he sees.

 

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I said I mistaked Campbell for Moore.

And never say never. It will when it Happen. You can have a safety that plays like a nickle. Texas utilize Vaccaro that way at Texas. Don't be surprise if the Saints uses him that same way with Harper and Jenkins deep back.

 

yeah, you can have CB, S, LB...crap, you could even drop a DE back into coverage and call him the nickel. it's just a extra person you drop back into coverage to give you 5 in coverage rather than 4 to cover additional receivers.

 

we've used LBs quite a bit over the years in nickel packages and we aren't rare in that.

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I believe that Gettleman saw development in the young guys on our roster last season.  I expect we will go into camp with what we have and let the true evaluation occur then.  If he is happy with what he sees with the young guys development, we will go into the season with them.  He could very easily add a vet guy i fhe does not like what he sees.

i'm presuming you mean mini camp, etc. we should see enough to know well before TC if we need more brought in.

 

in fact that should be the case with all positions. we should have everything worked out except maybe depth positions on the roster by training camp.

 

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yeah, you can have CB, S, LB...crap, you could even drop a DE back into coverage and call him the nickel. it's just a extra person you drop back into coverage to give you 5 in coverage rather than 4 to cover additional receivers.

 

we've used LBs quite a bit over the years in nickel packages and we aren't rare in that.

 

 

Have I told you I love you Ray? No homo.

Jk, one of the best poster one here!

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I hate to bring this back up, but I'm sure I'll remember several times throughout the season how we passed on Jamar Taylor and DJ Swearinger in the second.  Both could have been instant difference-makers in our secondary.  

 

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Here is the bottom line.

1. With the cap hell that Hurney left, we were and still are very limited with what could happen in FA

2. Without a 3rd round pick, the first two picks were really the only place we were going to draft someone better than the young guys we currently have in the seconday....another 5th-6th round guy would not upgrade what we have.

3. With the way that the draft fell, Star and KK were absolutely the BPA and fit a HUGE need

4. A nasty pass rush will help our secondary significantly more than adding another late round guy to the mix

I for one am waiting to see how this unit performs on the field before making any judgements.

Thank you. Someone gets it.

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I expect that both of the Josh's end up starting. Which I think was the teams plan from the start, Florence was brought in to provide them with some veteran leadership and competition. 

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