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And the hits just keep on coming for the Patriots

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this may be the greatest test of tom brady's career

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I'm glad the Big Cat is high on character players...

Yet since 2000 the Carolina Panthers still have more arrests than the New England Patriots.

 

Don't worry though, they are gaining quickly!

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I understand your frustration, but I think you are off base with this. Plenty of teams are winning games, going to the playoffs, and winning championships without any of their players murdering people or going out drunk driving.

 

Our problem isn't that we have nice guys, but the culture of complacency that infested the team for years. Yet certain people would have you believe our QB is a bad person because he has the audacity to hate losing.

Of course it would be nice if we had more wins but I'd rather wins with character players than wins without them. But, in my opinion, wins start from the top down, or should I say the bottom up...meaning the foundation of the club. 

I wasn't implying anything more than what i said. i wish that more wins came. 

 

i like not having players that were headaches off the field, but i think we have tried for years to get players who were "nice guys" and many times that does translate into complacency. we've taken more pride in having good guys than wins and when the wins don't come we like to say it's alright cause at least we have players who are friendly and nice folks.

 

fans have become too complacent, mirroring the culture that was formed during the last half of the fox years. it's ok to have a losing team as long as you have players you "like".

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I wasn't implying anything more than what i said. i wish that more wins came. 

 

i like not having players that were headaches off the field, but i think we have tried for years to get players who were "nice guys" and many times that does translate into complacency. we've taken more pride in having good guys than wins and when the wins don't come we like to say it's alright cause at least we have players who are friendly and nice folks.

 

fans have become too complacent, mirroring the culture that was formed during the last half of the fox years. it's ok to have a losing team as long as you have players you "like".

 

I really have not seen any fans here say anything about having "nice players" after a loss lol. Usually it involves rants about firing certain coaches or cutting a specific player immediately and erasing their name from history.

 

Are you saying that we are losing because we don't go after the bad boy type players? Just trying to understand.

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I really have not seen any fans here say anything about having "nice players" after a loss lol. Usually it involves rants about firing certain coaches or cutting a specific player immediately and erasing their name from history.

 

Are you saying that we are losing because we don't go after the bad boy type players? Just trying to  understand.

ugh. no.

 

i said i liked that we don't have players that aren't headaches off the field, but i wished it resulted in more wins. that's all. there's been very little reward for focusing on high character players. it makes for warm fuzzies. that's all. we have players that have stayed out of trouble, but it hasn't made us a more winning team. not that getting bad character players would make us win... tho, there's likely been a few guys we passed on because they had a sketchy past who could have brought more wins...when you limit the pool of talent for issues not relating to talent, you limit your possibilities of getting the most talented players.

 

and i'm not saying that people are saying outright that after a loss people are saying that it's ok because we have high character players, but i think many are ok with having a losing team because we have a likeable team. does that make sense? they accept losing because they like the guys on the team.

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I am pretty damm sure there is no one on here that likes losing.

We have not been losing because we have "Nice Guys". We were losing because we lacked talent. Which is not a problem anymore. We have a bunch of talented players, who seem able to stay out of trouble.

I am also pretty sure most would rather win with nice guys. Than win and have our guys on the Police blotters.

Not even a close call.

The, "Woe is me because we don't win" crowd will grasp at anything to perpetuate the "Mediocrity" mindset. "Nice Guys" are not the curse some say they are. But hey, this is the interwebz.

As has been stated already. Plenty of teams win without having trouble makers. Some coaches and organizations just believe they can handle trouble makers. Seems to backfire quite a bit. I am glad I don't have to hear negative things like this about our players.

We are on the verge of being a pretty good football team. And we have a bunch of those "Nice Guy' players. Seems to be working for us.

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Well I don't really think it's fair to say our Scouting Dept./Gettleman are limiting the talent pool without even knowing the inner workings or specifically their precise philosophy for what attributes they look for in each player.

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did i say like losing?

 

i love people jumping to conclusions.

 

accept losing...not like losing. there's a difference.

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch

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Karma... she's a bitch. 

 

The only way to satisfy the football gods is to give us the SB trophy that is rightfully ours. 

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Karma... she's a bitch. 

 

The only way to satisfy the football gods is to give us the SB trophy that is rightfully ours. 

if we dind't have a roided up OL then we might have a case with the football gods.

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if we dind't have a roided up OL then we might have a case with the football gods.

 

Please don't inject reality into my fantasy, LOL

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