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#37 Udogg

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:34 AM

Gain positive yards consistently.

 

Come on dude.  You have seen a lot of NFL games.  Who was going to gain yards against some of those penetrations last night? Barry Sanders and um.no one else.   Yeah Barner may have had a few more positive yard plays, but to say it was because of Barner skills and not because of the defense?  No one but Cam was going to run anywhere that night.  There were 0 holes.  Not to the outside or inside.  Look at that third and 1 play,  There were 3 Ravens within 1 yard of the handoff.  

 

The line was so bad last night, when we ran a screen play it looked like the regular offensive line blocking scheme.  If there were legitimate holes and Williams just wasn't hitting them I would be all for putting in whomever ran better.  But that is simply not the case.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:37 AM

I have been waiting for Barner to take over a game before I said it. I have hinted at running with Tolbert, Barner, and Poole this season. Rip the bandaid off these bad contracts.

 

They are all better screen RB's then our starters too



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:45 AM

Williams - .5 yards per carry

Barner - 3.5 yards per carry

 

 

Yeah, I am way off base.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:47 AM

I think some of you are missing the point.

 

DWill is *clearly* the more talented back and he's the better back if he has any blocking at all.

 

The question is a worse back with a better style for playing behind a shitty OL a better option to be playing right now.  The net worth might be higher in spite of the lower actual value of the player.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:48 AM

Williams - .5 yards per carry
Barner - 3.5 yards per carry


Yeah, I am way off base.


Zod .. come on now .. really?

You've seen dude in 3 preseason games against mostly second and third string defenses ..

didn't expect a post like this from you ..

unless..

you're trolling?

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:50 AM

Zod .. come on now .. really?

You've seen dude in 3 preseason games against mostly second and third string defenses ..

didn't expect a post like this from you ..

unless..

you're trolling?

 

Nope. I feel Barner can get more behind a bad offensive line than Deangelo, as shown last night.

 

Deangelo may be a better back given adequate space, but he isn't getting that anytime soon.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:50 AM

I think some of you are missing the point.

DWill is *clearly* the more talented back and he's the better back if he has any blocking at all.

The question is a worse back with a better style for playing behind a shitty OL a better option to be playing right now. The net worth might be higher in spite of the lower actual value of the player.


this logic is incredibly flawed .. wow

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

DeAngelo was running behind our 1st team o-line, Barner ran behind the 2nd right? Yeah I know, our 1st is better than the second, but my point is; with Barner running behind our 2nd and running against their 2nd isn't really a fair comparision. But I do agree with the accessment of how they both run. Barner hits the hole or crack a lot quicker that D Will.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

this logic is incredibly flawed .. wow

 

Go rewatch the game and notice how much faster Barner gets to the LOS than Dwill does.

 

It is absolutely the case.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:54 AM

DeAngelo was running behind our 1st team o-line, Barner ran behind the 2nd right? Yeah I know, our 1st is better than the second, but my point is; with Barner running behind our 2nd and running against their 2nd isn't really a fair comparision. But I do agree with the accessment of how they both run. Barner hits the hole or crack a lot quicker that D Will.

 

Barner ran behind first string O-Line



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:57 AM

Barner ran behind first string O-Line

O okay, I thought it was the  2nd, at least he didn't fumble any. I hope that we can pick up a quality o-lineman after the upcoming cuts. Heck, Wharton will be better that what we've got.



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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:58 AM

This thread is a damn joke. #28 was phenomenal when he became the starter behind that oline last year right, CRA? It is as if #34's performance after Stewart went down didn't happen. This anybody should start other than DeAngelo Williams is too tired. You all can't even wait for the season to begin before turning the keys over to a rookie who has shortcomings as well. But that doesn't matter tho. Because anybody, including Tolbert, are better options the #34. Barner had a Seam and picked up some yards and that is enough proof for Zod to create this thread. Gtfoh!!!!