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You're the only one who keeps bringing up cam. There are several issues with the panthers . Ron Rivera is one of them. Ownership is another. Marty hurney is another. Not having addressed needs over the years and bad drafts help as well.

I have been a fan for 11 years and have a pretty solid hold on what our teams problems are, and when I say Ron Rivera needs to be fired it is legitimate. He's not the guy.

John fox is a fine coach but never had a legitimate QB. And he's doing ok now because he has one.

 

I mentioned Cam becaus there are some who believe that I only came on this site or started following this team because of him. I actually follow many of the football teams. Not closely like I am now with you guys but I happen to love the game and pay attention to all the teams. Right now I'm watching the 49er and Texan game. There is a reason why I choose the ID that I did.

 

Also, sometimes being a fan for a very long time does form a bit of bias towards your team and forces you to be blind to their weakness. Even thou deep down inside you know the problem is more than a coach or QB change. When are you folks going to start being honest to yourself and stop changing QBs and coaches like a Prostitute changes her Johns? 

 

There is a saying, if you keep seeing the same pattern of behavior despite the many changes at the same position, then maybe that isn't where the problem really lies. U folks seem to be looking for someone to come in and change the culture of this team. The question should be, who controlling the culture in the first place?

 

In reagards to your comment on Fox:  Did you see what he did with a mechanically challenged QB like The Golden Calf of Bristol? Clausen is way better than The Golden Calf of Bristol. So that tells me something else was going on behind the scene. 

 

BTW, Chud is also doing quite well as the headcoach. What is the excuse for that? 

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I mentioned Cam becaus there are some who believe that I only came on this site or started following this team because of him. I actually follow many of the football teams. Not closely like I am now with you guys but I happen to love the game and pay attention to all the teams. Right now I'm watching the 49er and Texan game. There is a reason why I choose the ID that I did.

Also, sometimes being a fan for a very long time does form a bit of bias towards your team and forces you to be blind to their weakness. Even thou deep down inside you know the problem is more than a coach or QB change. When are you folks going to start being honest to yourself and stop changing QBs and coaches like a Prostitute changes her Johns?

There is a saying, if you keep seeing the same pattern of behavior despite the many changes at the same position, then maybe that isn't where the problem really lies. U folks seem to be looking for someone to come in and change the culture of this team. The question should be, who controlling the culture in the first place?

In reagards to your comment on Fox: Did you see what he did with a mechanically challenged QB like The Golden Calf of Bristol? Clausen is way better than The Golden Calf of Bristol. So that tells me something else was going on behind the scene.

BTW, Chud is also doing quite well as the headcoach. What is the excuse for that?

You're making a lot of sweeping generalizations about me. Have you ever read any of my posts? I consider myself a very objective fan and know the game of football very well.

John fox couldn't bench The Golden Calf of Bristol quick enough. He's a defensive coach. He did nothing with The Golden Calf of Bristol as far as mechanics. He never had an OC in carolina worth poo. He was force fed jimmy clausen by hurney which was just a puppet for jerry Richardson.

Go back and read what I've said about Cam, Richardson, hurney, our o line, our secondary and all other aspects of our team.

And who said anything about chud? He has a better coaching staff in Cleveland than he did here. Also has a better oline and secondary. Chud wanted to be a head coach. Carolina was nothing more than a stepping stone for him. And what other coaches that we treated like a prostitute are killing it? Dan henning? Jeff Davidson? Seifert? Jack del rio?

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You're making a lot of sweeping generalizations about me. Have you ever read any of my posts? I consider myself a very objective fan and know the game of football very well.

John fox couldn't bench The Golden Calf of Bristol quick enough. He's a defensive coach. He did nothing with The Golden Calf of Bristol as far as mechanics. He never had an OC in carolina worth poo. He was force fed jimmy clausen by hurney which was just a puppet for jerry Richardson.

Go back and read what I've said about Cam, Richardson, hurney, our o line, our secondary and all other aspects of our team.

And who said anything about chud? He has a better coaching staff in Cleveland than he did here. Also has a better oline and secondary. Chud wanted to be a head coach. Carolina was nothing more than a stepping stone for him. And what other coaches that we treated like a prostitute are killing it? Dan henning? Jeff Davidson? Seifert? Jack del rio?

 

So you admit that the problem with this team is more its culture and less the coaches.

 

Considering this is a fairly young team, you have gone through quite a bit of coaches, don't you think?

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Why does your friends refuse to talk about Cam and the Panthers with you?

 

And, why is Cam forcing plays? Oh, maybe the answer is, his Receivers are not helping him out. That is too easy. Nope, it Cam's fault because he is doing something wrong.

 

Why is it when it comes to QBs like Matt Stafford, Sam Bradford, Luck and even Eli,  you would hear folks admit the QBs are forcing the ball because the Receivers are fugging up but when it comes to QBs like Cam, it's all on them.

 

The media and Colts fans will demand the team do every thing to help Luck succeed. I simply don't get the hype surrounding him when all he's doing is managing the games like he was in college. It's the rest of the team who is making him look good and he gets all of the credit. But you folks expect Cam to be like a workhorse and carry this team week in and out. Guess what happens when, the Receivers don't do their part? Cam forces the balls.

 

I strongly believe deep down inside many of you simply don't want Cam under center. U will tolerate him playing but the measuring stick you will give to another QB, u will not do so with him. And that is so darn obvious.

 

They refuse to talk about Cam with me because I constantly hype Cam up. I fully believe that he has the potential to be the greatest QB of all time.

 

I agree with you that too many Panthers fans take Cam for granted. Too many people also act like Cam has little to no issues as well. I love Cam to death. He's my 2nd favorite player behind Smitty (and tbh I talk about Cam way more than I do Smitty). Cam just had a really bad second half, but his teammates did not help him out at all. AWFUL offensive line and early drops that should have been TD's really hurt not only him, but the team as a whole. I just can't help to think, "what if Cam had another weapon, a real offensive line, and a great coaching staff around him?". Hopefully we'll find out next season...

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I think Gettleman's non endorsement of Cam as the QB of the future should speak volumes to anyone who's listening. You saw today how teams will handle him. He locks in on his receiver, doesn't call audibles in his third year, doesn't have the confidence of teammates in fact he distances himself from them when off the field, when you have a speedy linebacker spying on him he's no threat to run,.....the list goes on and on.

frank garcia is that you?

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