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#21 jdpanther5

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:20 AM

I watch most games...he definitely benefits from the team defense as he himself doesn't offer much. He has admitted as such.

Bogut averages 8. I like the guy and love what he brings to the team, but defense ain't it. You say he's done well being paired with guys like Love and Millsap, but not a one of those teams got out of the first round despite being very strong offensively.

He would be better served working with a PF with some semblance of a defensive game, which is why I thought the Gibson rumors made more sense than the Monroe ones. I'd like to try Biz next to him, but Clifford apparently disagrees.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:24 AM

I watch most games...he definitely benefits from the team defense as he himself doesn't offer much. He has admitted as such.

Bogut averages 8. I like the guy and love what he brings to the team, but defense ain't it. You say he's done well being paired with guys like Love and Millsap, but not a one of those teams got out of the first round despite being very strong offensively.

He would be better served working with a PF with some semblance of a defensive game, which is why I thought the Gibson rumors made more sense than the Monroe ones. I'd like to try Biz next to him, but Clifford apparently disagrees.

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The NBA is offense over defense... so I have no problem is sacrificing some defense to make our offense better.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:30 AM

As for the draft, I hope we grab some kind of shooter. Even if we do get Stephenson, he's only solid from three. Assuming we get a pick in the 9-12 range we should have some options:

LaVine (I can dream), Harris, Hood, Young, McDermott...maybe Hairston with the PDX pick.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:35 AM

The NBA is offense over defense... so I have no problem is sacrificing some defense to make our offense better.


Eh, I disagree there. Most of the top teams are stronger defensively. Just look at how we trounced the vaunted Splash Brothers and Golden State. Also the lack of success of Al's previous teams... and we're a much better team with MKG in the lineup.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 04:11 AM

Eh, I disagree there. Most of the top teams are stronger defensively. Just look at how we trounced the vaunted Splash Brothers and Golden State. Also the lack of success of Al's previous teams... and we're a much better team with MKG in the lineup.

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- I could also point out how we got trounced by Carmelo and the Knicks... because when a team gets hot, it doesn't matter how great your defense is; you won't stop them.

 

- And I agree we are a better defensively with MKG, at one point we were second in defense this year but that doesn't matter if you can't put the ball in the hole (which Walker, Stephenson, Turner, Monroe, and Jefferson can).

 

- I'm not sure what you are trying to say about Al's previous teams (are you insinuating that they were bad because of Al?) because Utah and Minnesota sure aren't doing well without him.

 

- Just for you info, I did some research on Monroe's defensive efficiency stats and they are actually pretty solid (better than McRoberts).

 

The only thing I can see you being concerned about is the spacing between Monroe and Jefferson and like I previously mentioned; Big Al has played with Love, Millsap, Favors, Perkins, etc... and he has always adapted while still maintaining great numbers.

 

I really can't see a great argument against going after Monroe.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 07:08 AM

Please read the whole thing.......
(Including the first lines)

And turner plays both 2 and 3. Wouldn't matter how the lineup looks on paper.


Ha...I read that with one eye opened when I woke up in the middle of the night. Probably shouldn't do that.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 08:40 AM

Bring him in!

Trade for Monroe and sign Lance in FA.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 11:55 PM

Now that is a plan!



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Posted 08 February 2014 - 12:23 AM


- And I agree we are a better defensively with MKG, at one point we were second in defense this year but that doesn't matter if you can't put the ball in the hole (which Walker, Stephenson, Turner, Monroe, and Jefferson can).

- I'm not sure what you are trying to say about Al's previous teams (are you insinuating that they were bad because of Al?) because Utah and Minnesota sure aren't doing well without him.

- Just for you info, I did some research on Monroe's defensive efficiency stats and they are actually pretty solid (better than McRoberts).

The only thing I can see you being concerned about is the spacing between Monroe and Jefferson and like I previously mentioned; Big Al has played with Love, Millsap, Favors, Perkins, etc... and he has always adapted while still maintaining great numbers.

I really can't see a great argument against going after Monroe.


-I care less about points and more about net points. MKG doesn't score a bunch but he keeps the ball out of the opponent's basket. Melo game was exception, not rule.

-I'm not saying it was Al's fault for his teams' lack of success (well, maybe partially), but the fact is pairing him with another defensively-deficient big hasn't worked in the past. I wouldn't mind Al or Monroe, but both? Eh...

-Monroe typically plays with a strong, defensive big, whether it be Drummond or Smith, so that takes away from his deficiencies a bit. McRoberts isn't great either but he isn't a long- term piece, as Monroe would be.

Again, not concerned with spacing, it's just that I'm more defense-minded whereas you prefer offense (nothing wrong with that).

More news today about Chicago not wanting Gibson's salary (not wanting to pay a potential all-defensive team bonus), not there's a guy I'd like us to pursue.

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 02:44 AM

-I care less about points and more about net points. MKG doesn't score a bunch but he keeps the ball out of the opponent's basket. Melo game was exception, not rule.

-I'm not saying it was Al's fault for his teams' lack of success (well, maybe partially), but the fact is pairing him with another defensively-deficient big hasn't worked in the past. I wouldn't mind Al or Monroe, but both? Eh...

-Monroe typically plays with a strong, defensive big, whether it be Drummond or Smith, so that takes away from his deficiencies a bit. McRoberts isn't great either but he isn't a long- term piece, as Monroe would be.

Again, not concerned with spacing, it's just that I'm more defense-minded whereas you prefer offense (nothing wrong with that).

More news today about Chicago not wanting Gibson's salary (not wanting to pay a potential all-defensive team bonus), not there's a guy I'd like us to pursue.

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Gibson is another good option, not sure what Chicago would want for him though.




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