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Steve Smith on Gettleman's "Evaluation" comment


Best Answer XClown1986, 26 February 2014 - 05:49 PM

maybe i need to bold[cole82ee]"im still going to wait for a non- person like source to confirm" [/color]


It was the Beason part that was ill informed. Beason requested the trade, Gettleman didnt get rid of him.

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#151 Squirrel

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:06 PM

Let me say I like what Gettleman is doing it sends a message and keeping players that make more than they produce wont happen here.   This the way you run a NFL team and get the most out of people.  Now Smitty never needed motivation he is at the end of his career and what he is making compared to production is huge.  I thank him for the years he has been here but at one point or another everyone has to leave the team. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:09 PM

If Smitty retires, it will create additional $12m in cap room. What do we do with almost $45m in cap space?

Throw the biggest tailgate party for everyone in the huddle. What better way to spend $45 mil than on us, the fans.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:09 PM

Yeah, I don't think he will be cut either, but if he were to cut Smitty, he would have no say it the matter.

An outright cut is simply that but it doesn't sound like is what they want to do.  It would be bad for the team not to at least try to work things out. Plus we really don't want one of our division rivals to pick him up this year. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:09 PM

I think you think long and hard about cutting Smith because of his contract. His option bonus/ non-exercise fee isn't going to get paid.  

 

 

 

I think Gettleman's oddly worded press conference was done on purpose, to make sure that Smith wouldn't want to come back and he would think about retiring before being cut. I'm not sure, but it might save the team more money if he retires. 

 

I think it was all done on purpose, was it done badly......of course it was. They should of asked smith to retire in private, not do it in a public setting. 

 

 

 

 

I think that's what it comes down to though, the team wants him to retire so they don't have to cut him. 

that is just dumb. if G-man did it on purpose he is an idiot.That is why I don't think it was on puropose. If the classy thing to do is ask him to retire in public then I see no reason so far to believe G-man would not be classy about this situation.Nothing in his actions so far suggest he would try to do a stupid thing like this. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:14 PM

It would cost us two extra million to cut him this season, unless of course its a June 1 cut, which would only be an option if we get new players.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:15 PM

I hate being late to the party. Mostly because the beer is usually gone, as are all the decent chicks. But...

Wow. Has this thing taken flight? Sure Steve is due more money than he is basically worth. And we need to figure out a way to diminish his cap hit. But it sounds like the powers that be have done a really bad job of going about this. Whether it is from answering questions before you know what the answer is, or just wanting to give an answer so you can move on. Either way. Gman and Ron have stepped on a rattler.

Smitty has earned the right to be consulted. He has earned the right to have a face to face. Lay out the plan, and let him decide what he wants to do. Playing it out this way has caused a mess. Whether intentional or not.

Gman has done a marvelous job...until this. Let's see how he handle his first public relations nightmare. If we come out of this smelling good, yeah. If we come out of this smelling like cow dung...oops.

I want Smitty back. At a reasonable price. Which I am pretty sure is what Smitty would do. Now...I ain't so sure. This is going to be fun.

I wouldn't call this a public relations nightmare....I mean just last offseason Gettlemen threw Cam under the bus a litte and acted like he didn't know if the future was the future.  DON"T FORGET....Gettlemen is a damn yankee.  His style is simply different.  He may not mean anything by what he says he just may speak in certain terms that aren't as pretty as say other GMs would.

 

Our franchise, by NFL standards, has always been overly loyal....to a fault.  Maybe we are shifting back toward more of the norm of NFL standards. 

 

If Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, etc can play in different uniforms......so can  guys like 89.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:18 PM

Serious question for you guys, just to see where the thinking is at. Do you think SS production has diminished because he's losing his skills or because the O is lacking the tools to take the main focus off him? With Dwill underachieving, JStew always hurt, no serious receiving threat opposite him, and a QB that has had to pick up the NFL game and spend a lot of time running for his life, is this really all SS's fault? I tend to think it's a little of both and that's where the evaluation for DG, RR and the FO is really focused. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

http://bigstory.ap.o...-future-unclear

 

 

 

When Rivera was asked Wednesday at a press conference announcing Jordan Gross' retirement if he thinks Smith will be back next season, the coach said, "A lot of it will have to do with what our situation and circumstances are going to be. I think as we go forward, just what the role is going to be we'll see."     Rivera says the Panthers need to clear cap room and says free agency may determine what happens with the 34-year-old Smith.

 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:21 PM

I have had the opportunity to talk extensively to several former players in the NFL, one in fact is a partner in a business venture we hold together. As they have described it the private sector for those who are employed is much more congenial than the NFL once they have "used you up". It is business, but Smith, despite the love the community has for him as player, he is an old guy in the NFL and it's coming time to move him out, and anyone once they break into their early 30's the fat lady is warming up for her song cause their days are numbered. The clubs tell the players all the right things while they are useful but when the time is up, there is no service pin, cake, watch and loving going on when they send the signal it is time to go. Yes, they have been paid extremely well, but the attitude of the league is once they are gone, go hang with the NFL Alumni Club if you want to be around the league. It is a brutal body shop business, Manpower with pads.  



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:22 PM

Serious question for you guys, just to see where the thinking is at. Do you think SS production has diminished because he's losing his skills or because the O is lacking the tools to take the main focus off him? With Dwill underachieving, JStew always hurt, no serious receiving threat opposite him, and a QB that has had to pick up the NFL game and spend a lot of time running for his life, is this really all SS's fault? I tend to think it's a little of both and that's where the evaluation for DG, RR and the FO is really focused. 

some skills have clearly diminished......speed, burst, etc.

 

some of his skills are better.....he is probably a better route runner, better with contact etc.  The skills you enchance with age and experience.

 

Williams isnt' underachieving....he is a 30 year old RB



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:23 PM

Serious question for you guys, just to see where the thinking is at. Do you think SS production has diminished because he's losing his skills or because the O is lacking the tools to take the main focus off him? With Dwill underachieving, JStew always hurt, no serious receiving threat opposite him, and a QB that has had to pick up the NFL game and spend a lot of time running for his life, is this really all SS's fault? I tend to think it's a little of both and that's where the evaluation for DG, RR and the FO is really focused. 

I think Steve honestly still had the talent to be a 1,000 yd WR this past year. He missed two games and had a case of the dropsies for a while that set him back. But obviously he is not the dominant player he was. But he's damn impressive for his age. He's overachieving for himself in a position he should not be in right now. 

 

He could probably still have a big year in a offense with Brady or Manning but really we just need to get some WR's that can take double teams and really help him out for once.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:23 PM

Somehow I get the feeling G-man will decide Smith is still good for this team.

 

"is he good" isn't the question.

 

"Is he worth what we're paying him right now" is.
 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:23 PM

If Steve Smith is not with the Carolina Panthers next year....Gettleman will take a huge hit in my mind 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:25 PM

It would cost us two extra million to cut him this season, unless of course its a June 1 cut, which would only be an option if we get new players.

 

With the way his contract is set up if he's cut, it saves the team 2 million and the team would owe 5 million to him. If he's cut before July 1st the 3 million option/non-exercise fee wouldn't count only his signing bonus and 3 million in guaranteed salary. 

 

If he's a June 1st cut, the team saves 4 million this season and 4 million next season. 



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:28 PM

With the way his contract is set up if he's cut, it saves the team 2 million and the team would owe 5 million to him. If he's cut before July 1st the 3 million option/non-exercise fee wouldn't count only his signing bonus and 3 million in guaranteed salary. 

 

If he's a June 1st cut, the team saves 4 million this season and 4 million next season. 

well we wont know his future until june 1 or july whichever it is.  but his reaction to a generic comment that DG gives for pretty much everyone and i dont have a problem with, probably throws any renegotiations out the door.




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