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jdpanther5

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In Topic: Panthers waive Edmund Kugbila

25 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

Now find a way to trade Stewart. Like Kugbila, he plays Offense, so you don't have to worry about him going after Cam's ankles when you see him again.


Trading Stewart literally costs 4x as much as just keeping him.

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In Topic: Carolina has almost $19M in dead money on the books

17 June 2014 - 11:02 AM

I didn't see the question answered because of bitching and moaning back and forth so I will ask it again....when does that money come off the books?

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All of those guys - but Steve - will be off the books next year. Then the following year Smith will be off them as well. However, we'll add a few smaller amounts (like you see on Zod's list) for guys who were given a small signing bonus but end up not making the team. Those amounts are rather insignificant though, so our dead money next season should be about one fourth as big.

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In Topic: Jon Beason carted off field during non contact exercise.

13 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

We did Jon a favor for the leader he was on and off the field.

It really doesn't get much harder than that to understand. He wanted a chance elsewhere we obliged out of immense respect.

We saved one million, just an added bonus.


I agree, I also think he agreed to the paycut so we could more easily find a trade partner. Just saying that trading him didn't save much at all, as some have implied.

You're not looking at the salary he would have made had we kept him. That;s the money that goes away once he's traded.

As far as the comparison, money that's being paid to a guy who isn't playing or is playing poorly (which is what Beason was) is pretty much just as useless as 'dead money'.


Had we kept him he would've made $1m, that was his base salary and that's all we would've paid him. That's my point.

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In Topic: Jon Beason carted off field during non contact exercise.

12 June 2014 - 05:42 PM

Nobody pays the kind of money Hurney gave Beason to a backup.


But we still paid him almost the same amount to play elsewhere, is that really any better?

$14m as a backup
$13m to go away

Kinda prefer the former.

Cap money....yes.

Dollars out the door...no.


too many of you only focus on the Cap Hit when talking about a player being cut. The cap his is a non-cash book transaction. What the team really saves is the $ going out the door to pay the guy's salary.


That makes it worse... the cap and payroll are the same amounts, just amortized differently. The trade saved $1m in cap and $1m in actual dollars. All the dead money has already been paid, so there's no recouping that.

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In Topic: Jon Beason carted off field during non contact exercise.

12 June 2014 - 12:42 PM

Those of you citing cap savings... realize we only saved $1m. He reduced his base to $1m - possibly to help facilitate a trade, which is my theory - and that's all that went to New York. The $13m + in bonuses stay here as dead money.

I know some say he never would've started again, but you need backups too and at a $1m difference between keeping and trading him I'd say he'd be worth it as quality depth, just in case.

Of course this is moot now as he would've walked as a FA had he not been traded, but the cap space theory doesn't hold a ton of weight IMO.

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