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Dash Global

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#2542385 Carolina O vs. Rex's 3-4

Posted by Dash Global on 12 December 2013 - 09:06 PM

get rid of the ball, by throwing to whom?
Or do you want Cam to be Jimmy Clausen and throw 2/3rds of his passes to the sideline? If You were satisfied by what you saw in 2010, so be it.

When you say "get rid of the ball," maybe you should also post a picture of the field and point out the open receiver.

 

You throw to where the WR should be BEFORE he breaks in an open window where theoretically only he can make the catch. Based on timing and ball placement. So the excuse that the WR isnt open doesnt fly for those types of routes and plays. Whether the WR was able to make the catch or not is another story. 

 

Im in South East Asia traveling for 2 months so my internet connection is pretty poo. However when I get back stateside I will rewatch the NO game and break it down with screen shots and play calls just for you. 




#2541486 Carolina O vs. Rex's 3-4

Posted by Dash Global on 11 December 2013 - 09:16 PM

That same ball control has us averaging 23 points a game which is slightly above last year when we supposedly had a great offense.  And while we don't have as many big passing plays we have fewer interceptions, lead the league in 80 yard drives and in time of possession.  Frankly I will take that over the hit and miss big play offense of last year.

 

 

And if Cam isn't getting the ball out in 2-3 seconds it is still lack of player execution.  I am sure that Shula told him to get the ball out quickly and not hold it.

 

Supposedly had a great offense?!? A great offense is top 5-10 in PPG / YPG. I am pretty sure that we were not close to that. Dont listen to the homers online. 

 

Everyone knows we have a ball control / establish the run / eat the clock offense. No one is gonna be scared of such an offense. 

 

You can take that offense and lose to the likes of Manning, Brees, and Brady every year. Bottom line is if we dont have a top 10 offense then we are not where we need to be on that side of the ball. Period. 

 

We need to be elite on BOTH sides of the ball. 

 

So you must think Cam is mentally retarded if he cant follow instructions and play calling ie throw the ball in 2-3 seconds BEFORE the WR breaks? You cant say its because the WR didnt get seperation as short quick passing game is built on throwing the ball before the WR makes his breaks / cuts. Cam should be throwing into windows where the WR should / will be not where he is. Thus if the WR doesnt do his job the ball would simply be an incompletion or int. That was not what was happening. We were calling the same plays we called all year. None of that is even mentioning Cam taking off running after 3 seconds which he wasnt doing. 

 

Id much rather lose TRYING the right thing. At that point we have done all we can do. Coaches and players. 




#2541471 Carolina O vs. Rex's 3-4

Posted by Dash Global on 11 December 2013 - 08:50 PM

That is ridiculous to say that coaching can solve any problem.  He gives the players the plan but they have to carry it out.  I guess the game plan was for Newton to hold the ball for 4 seconds and then back out into oncoming pressure so he got sacked or overthrowing receivers by 10 yards.

 

I didnt say coaching can solve any problem. However scheme and play calling wise is all on the coaches. Execution is on the players. 

 

So if I were to see Cam getting the ball out in 2-3 seconds or scrambling and throwing the ball before WR breaks but the plays simply fail due to drops / incomplete passes / cam getting minimal yards on the scramble / ints THEN I would put in on the players. 

 

I am not seeing the above. I am seeing the same play calling ie ball control / run / longer routes etc. 




#2541460 Carolina O vs. Rex's 3-4

Posted by Dash Global on 11 December 2013 - 08:37 PM

Shula isn't the problem.  It is blitz pickups by the offensive line and the right side in particular.

 

He is the problem. As an OC you need to be able to game plan for pressure and a weak OL. ie Practice all week on short routes and getting the ball out in 2-3 seconds. 

 

I dont want to hear about the WR not getting seperation. Until I see Cam throwing the ball BEFORE the WR breaks consistently then I will throw up the hands and say nothing else can be done. 

 

So to recap, Cam needs to 

 

1) Get the ball out sooner 2-3 seconds

2) Throw before the WR breaks 




#2537041 Our offense style / scheme is not gonna cut it

Posted by Dash Global on 09 December 2013 - 12:36 AM

I agree with what you've said with one major exception.... smart conservative football doesnt win games against teams built for shootouts like the 2013 Saints. not saying we arent built to play elite football against elite teams and win marquee games. we are. but you're missing the point of the OP. the gameplan was way too conservative for the type of game we needed to play tonight. play conservative against the 2013 Bucs, you'll win every time. play conservative against the 2013 Saints, you'll win 1 out of every 10 times. simple as that.

 

Glad someone gets it. 

 

We can beat average teams all day with our current style. 

 

You want to beat the big boys you will need to match them score for score. 

 

And I can assure you that will not happen playing some ball control conservative O. 




#2536895 Our offense style / scheme is not gonna cut it

Posted by Dash Global on 09 December 2013 - 12:07 AM

You need OL and WR talent to be what OP wants.....

We don't have that

 

BS. We had an explosive O in 2011. 

 

We are a ball control offense. 

 

That is for scared pussies. 

 

The play calling is conservative. 




#2536740 Our offense style / scheme is not gonna cut it

Posted by Dash Global on 08 December 2013 - 11:47 PM

I have never got the whole "we need to be a time control / conservative / establish the run" offense. 

 

That is only good for inferior teams HOPING to keep the game close. 

 

We should WANT to be an explosive high scoring offense. Plain and fugging simple. 

 

No reason why we cant march down the field quickly and score a TD. Then kick off and get a 3 n out and go score again. Rinse and repeat. Fug this notion it will tire our D or any other excuse to why we should be conservative on offense. 

 

The offense ALWAYS have the upper hand, so when we face QBs like Manning, Brees, Brady, Rodgers they will shred our D. Their is always an answer for what ever the D is doing. Getting pressure ok quick 3 step routes. Playing man ok comebacks, drags/crosses, slants etc. Playing zone ok we will flood and/or find the holes. Light box ok we will run. Load the box ok we will pass. Play inside technique ok out routes. Play outside technique ok inside slants. Bring the safeties down ok over the top. I could go on and on. No matter how good your D is you will not be able to stop elite QBs and OCs every night. You must be able to match them score for score. IE We need to be AVERAGING 28+ ppg. 

 

We have faced 2 elite QBs this year and both of them SHREDDED our D. Brady marched right down the field on literally every possession. Only reason we won was because their D sucked and we were able to match the score for score. Not to mention getting help from the refs late. 

 

In todays NFL Cam should be averaging 300+ pass yards per game. With the RBs getting about 100+ yards a game. 

 

If your QB is averaging 200 pass yards a game you better be averaging 200-300 yards rushing a game. 

 

 

 

 

 

 




#2512103 Denver runs the same formation / personnel set on O 90% of the game

Posted by Dash Global on 24 November 2013 - 10:58 PM

It's not only about if the QB can do it, but about maximizing what your players can do.  If you don't need to disguise routes or play fancy because your QB can fit the ball into crazy windows or is basically just able to read a defense as well as any OC possibly could it changes everything.

 

How does one disguise a route? The defense has no clue what route each WR/TE/RB will take before the snap especially if every formation looks the same. 

 

You can disguise a play (pass / run) ie come out in a 1wr jumbo set and do a play action pass or come about in 4wr and run the draw. 

 

Manning doesnt need to fit the ball into crazy windows most the time because he is making the right calls and reads before snap. 

 

Obviously your qb needs to be able to read a defense and or your OC needs to be able to decipher what the D is running. 

 

Then again they have to do that regardless. Might as well keep things simple and get good - great at one thing than try to master many things only to be great at nothing. 




#2511819 Denver runs the same formation / personnel set on O 90% of the game

Posted by Dash Global on 24 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

Anyone else notice this? They run a sg 3wr 1te 1rb set most of the game. Sprinkle in some sg 4wr 1rb as well. 

 

I like how they keep things simple and just work on route combos to counter what ever the D is doing. 

 

Not sure why most teams dont do this. 




#2497790 The #1 defense in the NFL...

Posted by Dash Global on 19 November 2013 - 03:14 AM

A great OC, and QB will always have the upper hand. You can negate virtually anything the D does. 

 

We should have got a few more stops in this game however. Thank God Cam and our O came to play. 




#2495341 Official Panthers - Patriots Gameday Thread

Posted by Dash Global on 18 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

What the hell happened to this defense

 

You realize who we are playing? Same thing will happen when we play Brees and Peyton. 

 

We are pretty bad as you would expect atleast to stop them 50% of the time. 




#2494945 Official Panthers - Patriots Gameday Thread

Posted by Dash Global on 18 November 2013 - 10:20 PM

Let's hope Cam and the offense can keep up because I think our defense has just been exposed. 

 

Defense hasnt been exposed. Problem is we are going up against one of the best OC and one of the best QB in the history of the NFL. 




#2479789 Is this enough for Rivera to stay

Posted by Dash Global on 10 November 2013 - 10:07 PM

i dont want to lose Rivera and his / this defense. 

 

if anything, hire a offensive guru coordinator with a ball sack and let him make all offensive decisions.




#2476739 Halftime Thoughts...

Posted by Dash Global on 10 November 2013 - 05:35 PM

I would not feel good if I were the 49ers. 

 

Panthers played terrible and are only down 2 getting the ball. 




#2476440 Official Panthers - 49ers Gameday Thread

Posted by Dash Global on 10 November 2013 - 05:15 PM

I can not believe that call. WTF I want to break something






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