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#3032956 Should tackles pass the LOS be counted?

Posted by Udogg on Yesterday, 11:54 AM

3rd and 10, you tackle the guy after a 5 yard gain.  That doesn't help win games?


Guy is running down the field, miss the tackle and he goes to the house, you make it then team gets a turnover on the next play?  Did the tackle not help?


Blitz is called,  DE gets clean release, QB steps up in pocket  completes 80 yard bomb.  DE gets a QB pressure stat, CB gets blamed for allowing the completion.


4th and 10,  LB tackle rb out of the backfield after 8 yards?  That doesn't count?


I could on and on.

#3032091 Why winning the NFCS is so important

Posted by Udogg on 19 October 2014 - 10:29 PM

By the way, I am going to have to change my handle to "Optimist Prime"


I'm with you



#3028531 Official Panthers - Packers Gameday Thread

Posted by Udogg on 19 October 2014 - 01:22 PM

Touchdown now and Touchdown to start the second half changes the game.  Need it really bad.

#3026849 Extremely tired of hearing about Luck.

Posted by Udogg on 19 October 2014 - 11:35 AM

how exactly did he say "screw u carolina"? 


It was spoken is closed circles that the reason he didn't come out his junior year after practically being guaranteed 1st round pick status is because he didn't want to play for the Panthers.  Thus the screw u carolina feel some people have.


I know I am effected by Cam Newton bias, but I'm glad he didn't tbh.  I like Cam better. 

#3026810 Extremely tired of hearing about Luck.

Posted by Udogg on 19 October 2014 - 11:21 AM

you know what's exhausting?

whiney andrew luck threads on a panther forum.


It's like the dance moms show.  If anyone talks about Luck in their mind people are talking bad about Cam.




Don't worry about what the media says.   The media is like a tiger.  It's all fun and games until you stop feeding it.  Luck has another 34 interception playoff run and watch what happens.

#3026786 Silatolu, Blackburn, Fozzy Among Players Out Sunday

Posted by Udogg on 19 October 2014 - 11:11 AM

Im actually glad Amini is out, (not glad hes hurt ofcourse) didnt Cam start going ham on the ground with his rushing last week right after Amini left the game?! Ofcourse I wish noone to be hurt, but I think our O line is better without him


Yes the line play improved when Silatolu was out.  Next up is Chandler, then Bell (if neccesary) , Still wait and see on Turner.


I don't know if Amini sucks or just hasn't fully recovered from his injury but to me Velasco is the better player right now.


He is playing the same as he did before the injury.  He consistently causes Cam to either 1. move off of his spot on the dropback  2.  Have to roll out of the pocket 3. Not able to step into his throws.  Unless he gets help it always happens.  And if the defense runs a stunt or twist its pretty much over.


Yeah cause if Velasco and Turner hold it down or the line gives up zero sacks again, then Amini needs to be relegated to back-up duty.  He is still on a cheap rookie deal anyway.


Yes.  I don't think he should start anymore this year.  Maybe next year with a year of experience and more time to heal from injury, but I'm not optimistic either way.


It would be nice. Ironically we went on a winning streak when Amni went down last year, could he be the major problem? I won't argue against it. I would love to get a star safety, linebacker, CB or WR in the draft and find some decent offensive linemen in the later rounds. Not too long ago we seemed to always get decent offensive linemen in the later rounds of the draft.


The left side of the line improved dramatically once Wharton replaced Amini.  I don't think it's coincidental that Jordon Gross started looking way better as well.  As far as replacement, I don't think we need all world talent just not revolving door OL like we have now.   Just watch the 3rd and 7 play at around the 9 minute mark in the Bengals game.  Chandler gets layed out before Cam finishes his drop, Turner gets blown by,  other than maybe 4 QB's in the league and thats a sack.  Luckily Cam is 1 of them.



The line is better without Amini


Most definitely.


Silatolu is a punk


If punk = bad LG then I agree.

#3025278 Percy Havin to Jets! Wow!

Posted by Udogg on 17 October 2014 - 05:19 PM

To put our cap in a story form:


Imagine you have a Ferrarri (Cam), but the only tires you have are monster truck tires (stew and dwill). You financed the ferrarri but it has a huge balloon payment coming up so you can only replace 1-2 (luke kuechly, KK, star) tires per year for the next 2-3 years.  You have to leave your brand new Ferrarri in the elements because you garage(Oline) has no roof and no door. Also in the meantime you decided you wanted to get a state of the art speakers for your sound system(Greg Hardy) but 1 week after having it , it broke and you don't have a warranty. 


Now you would love to sell your monster truck tires for what you paid for them, but you live in the city and no one drives monster trucks anymore.  You want to fix your garage but you need to get tires first.  The radio you have right now only works sometimes and the rear speakers don't work at all because they are old.  To top it off, every time anyone else in the neighborhood buys new tires people call you cheap.  Even though at the moment you can barely afford gas.


The End.

#3023315 QB Index: Cam Newton breaks into the top five

Posted by Udogg on 16 October 2014 - 07:28 AM

I went over to the Colts forum today, on a thread on the same article there wasn't one mention of Cam.


We have 4 active discussions on Luck on our main forum.


We have such butthurt fans its unbelievable. 


It's like half the board turned into dance moms or something.

#3020927 PFF's Top Graded QBs so Far?

Posted by Udogg on 14 October 2014 - 02:16 PM


Another good stat:


Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 19m19 minutes ago
New interesting QB stat: Pickable passes. Who do you think is the best, worst in NFL?
Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 14m14 minutes ago
Pickable passes (ball thrown that should have been INT):
Best: Cam Newton (0 in 179 att), Matt Ryan (1-234)
Worst: Jay Cutler (9-229)



Because it's hard to intercept lightning!!!

#3017170 Did both teams lose?

Posted by Udogg on 12 October 2014 - 06:49 PM

technically we gained a half game on the Falcons so we sort of won ........


#3016370 All of this outrage over a tie. This is what you should be outraged over.

Posted by Udogg on 12 October 2014 - 04:43 PM

Ok.. I am outraged.

#3005645 Lions could part ways with Calvin Johnson after this season

Posted by Udogg on 08 October 2014 - 12:59 PM

If he will take 1/2 of his payment in hog mollies, 1/4 in pie and the rest cash, we could make it work.

#3004427 Beat the Bengals....the formula that appears to work

Posted by Udogg on 07 October 2014 - 01:38 PM

We better find a new formula because we can't run the ball.

#3004310 byron bell

Posted by Udogg on 07 October 2014 - 12:32 PM

Trai Turner and Amini are the future


I don't get why everyone just wants some random vets. Play time is how you get better, our guards will be great, like CAM said its the most athletic he has seen. Problem for us is the tackles, they can't move.


I guarantee if Velasco replaced Amini our line would look 2 times better immediately.  Amini is horrible is pass protection.  Please watch any game this year.  He always gets pushed into Cam, he always gets beat, unless its a play where he pulling, or the line is sliding, or he is firing off the ball on the PA to sell run.


Bell is on a whole holding his own.  Even the sack strip was Amini's fault. It was a double team with Amini having the inside, and bell protecting outside.   Amini is even making Kalil look bad. 


Let me say it again, please watch any game this year and watch Amini specifically in pass protection.

#3004301 byron bell

Posted by Udogg on 07 October 2014 - 12:27 PM

The OT have been the major issue that is where Cam gets most of his pressure, the interior has usual done well.


The pressure is up the middle.  Specifically where Silatolu is most of the times. The sack/strip was a double team between Bell and Silatolu.  It looked like Bell had outside and Sialatolu had inside.  The line split the doubleteam (inside) clean sack on Cam. 

Silatolu is our worst lineman by far.  It's not even close.  I just rewatched the game and I noticed something.  We started playing better when Kalil started helping Silatolu, or when we had running back helping chipping inside.  The sack in the second half was a result of a stunt that Silatolu didn't move to pick up and the back tried to pick up and was blown up.


He is better in the running game that I thought the first time I watched the game.  He is much better at everything when he is the aggressor. But as far as pass block setting he is atrociously bad.

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