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#3302209 Salesforce - 1 Bigots - 0

Posted by twylyght on Yesterday, 02:43 PM

The Deep South readily demonstrates the fallacy of your misguided beliefs.


"States Rights", the cry of all Bible thumping racists, circa 1850.


It is well past time to let that nonsense go.


Human civilization is becoming more intertwined every moment of every day, not less.


The pure libertarian vision you espouse is not conducive to creating or maintaining a modern society.


Good luck continuing to rail against the machine and praying for a collapse of the federal government.  If it should come to pass, you can finally live out your dream of living in a world only Mad Max could love.


Yet again... Somalia is a progressive socialist state that failed (and continues to fail) miserably.  Not a libertarian utopia.


Toss out another round of false equivilancies.  Toss out another backhanded comment about me being racist when you know that you're fully lying to yourself.  I know that if we let kids play at an early age, they don't give a whit about skin color.  That hatred is taught and nurtured into the smoldering fires that rage on here.

#3302111 Salesforce - 1 Bigots - 0

Posted by twylyght on Yesterday, 01:48 PM

what is a reasonable extent of allowing oppression?


one the one hand, you don't want the feds to just leap into something the instant a minority of supposed progressives decide that something immoral is going on, because then you have the basic democratic problem of allowing a moral hegemony over the general populace.


on the other hand, by screaming states' rights and free market you're basically screwing the people who have to live with those decisions. if Store X in State Y decides it's going to deny hispanics the right to shop at their stores, and 95% of people in State Y dislike Hispanics and therefore agree with it, then the free market does not correct the problem and Hispanics continue to get screwed.


it's nuanced for those reasons, and it's also worth noting there's a precedent for subverting the oppression of the majority.


If you were speaking about homosexuality, I would be more inclined to agree with you about the ubiquitous nature of this discrimination.  If you were talking about the 50s & 60s, I would be more inclined to agree with you.  I know that 332d would love to believe that the only reason these scenarios are hard to find anymore is because they were made illegal.  The fact of the matter is that a business that discriminates based on skin color loses money in a big way.


Now, homosexuals are a group of persons that encounter this phenomenon in a widespread way.  If they choose, they can keep their sexuality undisclosed where someone of race doesn't have that option.  I am still hesitant when a couple in Colorado insists on going to a known Christian bakery to have their wedding cake adorned in penises and cry umbrage when they are refused service.  I don't agree that homosexuality is a sin against God, but I also don't agree that imposing my worldview on other people is ethical.


It is at these junctures that I side with letting community write its own course with respect to morality.  In the absence of one's rights being violated, government has no rightful place to tread.

#3301810 Salesforce - 1 Bigots - 0

Posted by twylyght on Yesterday, 11:38 AM

Are you fine with a business turning away customers because of their skin color?

Personally? No. I don't give such businesses my patronage. But if they want to run themselves out of business with that kind of service, don't come to the public coffers to bail your ass out. This is the responsibility/consequences side of the coin for liberty.

#3300024 Janet Napolitano

Posted by twylyght on 26 March 2015 - 06:31 AM

First of all, your spreadsheet does not take into account or otherwise illustrate how the tuition freeze at the 2011-2012 levels for the past 3 years plays into this.


Second, no parent or anyone else looking at tuition fees for their kids are going to take such a macro look at what the dollar of 10 years ago was.


"But, son, 10 years ago tuition was this and look how the dollar has changed..."

"Dad, I was 8 years old then and nobody, including you, gives a poo what tuition was in 2005. I'm starting next year, that's all that matters."


I agree that tuition freezes matter.  I said to go back the maximum years to getter a better sample of how tuitions increased.  This would give a more representative look at how this has played out with respect to ongoing policy differences between states.


Regarding looking down the road, how do you save up for your kids' college education? People turn off when others bring up the Fed.  However, when inflation is jacking up market values to the point that savings mean nothing, then the pot is now boiling and the frog is dead.


Regarding your kid, my response would have been, "Then you obviously want nothing.  Otherwise, you'd have worked for that scholarship for a full ride to make this work.  Time to get a job."

#3295818 Mr. Richardson did flex muscles regarding Hardy

Posted by twylyght on 23 March 2015 - 01:52 PM

Am glad Jerry is running this ship and not this gaggle of asshats. You want a guy that would pick up Hardy? Change allegiance to the Cowboys or Raiders.

#3295728 Ted Cruz Becomes First Major Contender to Announce He is Running for Presiden...

Posted by twylyght on 23 March 2015 - 01:06 PM

How sad is it that part of being a good leader is finding that "golden mean" of lies to get elected that then be effective?

#3293604 Despite lowest gas prices and best job market since the 90s, why is Obama...

Posted by twylyght on 21 March 2015 - 03:27 PM

You're obtuse

If it's the same % voting just more people that would also mean that more African Americans also voted for the Republican candidate...in record numbers

And that would be a valid point.... Except


#3292547 Despite lowest gas prices and best job market since the 90s, why is Obama...

Posted by twylyght on 20 March 2015 - 02:38 PM

If the President apparently doesn't control anything how come he was being blamed for the same issues by some of the these same posters about 4 years ago


A valid point that seems pretty obvious from both sides of most issues.  Most people that make a prolonged, public, and enthusiastic investment in a person, ideology, project, etc usually fall prey to allowing emotional attachment and ego to trump reason.  It seems to be part of the human condition.

#3292450 How the news creates Racist mindsets.

Posted by twylyght on 20 March 2015 - 01:18 PM

Those last few sentences carry a tremendous amount more truth than most people realize.  Perhaps even the people that posted the video.

#3290613 Glenn Beck: Out of the GOP

Posted by twylyght on 19 March 2015 - 09:10 AM

I cannot conceive it because those two ideologies cannot coexist.



and then this...



I would contend the opposite.  Rights should be for legal citizens.  This is neither prohibitive nor exclusive to sexual preferance, gender, gender identity, race, culture, creed, etc. To look to big government to fix this issue is to trust the same people that made it a problem in the first place. 


Drug legalization - see above


Welfare state - why is this socially liberal?  This is a function of community, not institutionalized statism.


Universal Healthcare - why is this socially liberal?  See above


Social liberalism at its ideological roots is the allowance of one to live their life as they see fit, so long as they do not infringe the rights of another legal citizen.  Social conscience and ethics is the purview of community, not government.  To implement a "faith by the sword" policy as the function of government is the antithesis of liberty.  Freedom without consequences is also a misnomer.  Equal rights does not mean equal distribution of goods/services.  It does not mean preferential treatment.  It means equal reatment with respect to legal standing.  It doesn't mean forcing people to make "good decisions".  It means allowing people to make their own decisions and live by those fruits/failures accordingly.

#3290586 Glenn Beck: Out of the GOP

Posted by twylyght on 19 March 2015 - 08:39 AM

I am surprised Libertarians don't have a bigger voting block


Quite frankly, so am I.  We don't all agree, but it would seem that they have a great deal more in common with most people voting D/R than the fringe royalty running the show in DC.  The message is simple enough... "Let me live my life as I see fit.  Don't steal my poo."


I suppose that the vast majority in this country simply assume that voting outside the duality block is a "wasted vote".  As far as I'm concerned, when the reprentative doesn't follow through with their promises, it's a vote for them is wasted.  Hence, the vast majority of DC is loaded with wasted votes.

#3276568 Oklahoma University + Racist Frat Boys =

Posted by twylyght on 11 March 2015 - 07:28 AM

No, just don't vote for Republicans.

BTW I was just trolling pstall a little bit


I had figured as much.  You are normally pretty level-headed.  Kinda hard to tell in here when the intensity gets ratcheted up (not that I help on that front)

#3275549 It's pretty messed up when Iran is smarter, more honest and straightforwa...

Posted by twylyght on 10 March 2015 - 07:32 PM

So we're interested in what's legal now? I wonder why?

#3271555 Most sea ice ever recorded

Posted by twylyght on 09 March 2015 - 02:33 PM

While there were some scientifically grounded posits made in the video, most of it played like an episode of Ghost Hunters.


Tell ya what... how about someone tell me where we are on this pretty graph?




Mind you, this is still extrapolation with an unconfirmed guessing at best, but it appears to be accepted by these same scientists.

#3267851 Holy cow Scalia is of the rails

Posted by twylyght on 07 March 2015 - 04:04 PM

My fiance is a cancer survivor who has been unable to get insurance since she was diagnosed (she was let go from her job at a bank shortly before her results came back). This May will be her 6th year in remission.

She has acrued crippling debt in medical bills, is constantly harassed by collectors, and couldn't even go to the doctor when she's gotten sick afterwards. We've had to go to the ER which just piles onto what she affectionately refers to as her, "tab." She almost died from severe bronchitis last year after four separate trips to three different hospitals and even more money spent. We couldn't even afford the generics that they tried to prescribe her. We had to do what we could with samples packs.

For those of you that have had to pay more, thank you. Because of your (albeit unwilling) sacrifice, she can now get coverage. We don't have to worry about how much further we're setting ourselves back if she gets sick (which is often, as the chemotherapy from her cancer has greatly reduced the effectiveness of her immune system).

While some of you might think that the law is a plethora of negative things, we are two people that have directly benefitted from it. I am in my final two semesters of school after clawing my back in and have just been hired at a job that I now get insurance through. In fact, I've been sick as a dog for the last week but old habits die hard and I have yet to go to the doctor for it. She just got sick as well, and while we haven't married yet and she's not on my insurance, because of the ACA (please don't call it Obamacare, it just makes you look racist and/or retarded) we were able to get her to the doctor as well as afford the medications.

It's easy to look at how this law negatively affects you. However, what it does for people like us that have truly been in need for the last ten years, is amazing. It's a bit too late for us since we're in the process of transitioning into being fully covered and finally getting our lives started, but there are a lot of other people that I know (not including us) that this law has done for us what it was intended to do.

Thank you for paying a little more so that she can live.



I think a great number of people would be more accepting that the law is worthwhile if they felt the gratitude that you have expressed.  A simple "thank you" goes a long way.  Cancer is a pretty horrible ride and I wish you both nothing but the best going forward.  We are fortunate to live in a day and age where we are making strides in understanding and treat various kinds.  I hope and pray that you and your wife can be the beneficiaries of this.