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GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER

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47 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

like im sure you told yourself that you were defending your country, that you weren't like the bad troops, etc. hell you might have told other people the same thing. you were wrong. now that doesn't mean you're bad forever. all you have to do is stop apologizing for the crimes of the united states military and all of its (very willing) participants. 

No, I didn't. I'm a trained killer. I have no problem with that. I don't see it as a bad thing. I simply don't see myself as a murderer or a criminal, & I'm right.

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9 minutes ago, 332nd said:

... It's not a "gotcha" question. I'm honestly trying to figure out where you're coming from on this. 

& No you don't have to be in the military to participate, but the military is needed to produce people who have the ability to at least train others up. I've gone up against militia types with airsoft/paintball & they ain't gonna cut it.

the military wasn't always voluntary you know. we don't have to have a large standing military. institute a draft and train people up when needed to defend the US imo

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36 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

the military wasn't always voluntary you know. we don't have to have a large standing military. institute a draft and train people up when needed to defend the US imo

While I agree that it doesn't need to be the size it is, I don't think it should be super small either. 

In the WWs we sent a lot of undertrained people into the grinder at first.

 

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People in the military aren’t all bad. misguided? For sure. Bad, a bunch are and a bunch are a’ight. 

But to say the military is defending our nation is a large stretch. Today’s military is NOT defending our country. We are oppressing people, destroying sovereign nations, engaging in illegal invasions and giving people an excuse to hate us more than they already do. 

If you join, you sure as poo aren’t an automatic hero of the nation, nor do you deserve respect just for the fact that you joined the military. I don’t even think you should get a discount at Denny’s, but whatevs, not gonna make a fuss about it. 

When I meet someone new and ask them what they do, and they tell me, “I work at Best Buy” I respond with a “thank you for your service.”  They get just as confused as I get when people blindly say that to the troops.

I come from a military family and live in a city highly influenced by the military (Navy and Marines). Most of these shucks are just misguided kids, and like any other profession, they don’t get any exaltation from me unless they earn it by demonstrating that they’re a good human being. 

Cops are all pigs tho. And I’m not sure how I feel about MPs. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

We do that in every war.

Not an Iraq. See Generation Kill. First Recon was some bad ass mofos. Sneaking past our own troops to go smoke cigars and chill in a high officials office. Fact. When asked why they did it. Because they were bored and wanted some fun.

also my bad, Iraq wasn’t a war. It was an invasion.

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8 minutes ago, jayflip said:

Cops are all pigs tho.

i mean how can you say this when i can point to cops and say they joined up because they were misguided kids who thought they would be serving their communities? i think it's just easier to see a video of a bomb exploding in iraq and think "they probably deserved it" than it is to see, say, tamir rice gunned down and think the same.

and what exactly does misguided mean in this context? was the austin bomber misguided? nikolas cruz? dylann roof? these people aren't just wrong; they're *aggressively* wrong. wrong in a way that brings direct harm to others. it wouldn't make me feel any differently to think that a lot of troops joined because they were just misguided. when you take up a weapon and make the choice to wage war, it's on you and only you to get your fuging facts straight.

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29 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

i mean how can you say this when i can point to cops and say they joined up because they were misguided kids who thought they would be serving their communities? i think it's just easier to see a video of a bomb exploding in iraq and think "they probably deserved it" than it is to see, say, tamir rice gunned down and think the same.

and what exactly does misguided mean in this context? was the austin bomber misguided? nikolas cruz? dylann roof? these people aren't just wrong; they're *aggressively* wrong. wrong in a way that brings direct harm to others. it wouldn't make me feel any differently to think that a lot of troops joined because they were just misguided. when you take up a weapon and make the choice to wage war, it's on you and only you to get your fuging facts straight.

I pretty much agree with your assessment on the military. I think I’m just trying to rationalize things, but it’s not working. 

Rationalizing things is dangerous. 

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52 minutes ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

We do that in every war.

Yeah, but not nearly as many as those.

ETA: Well, & the Civil War, depending on if you reclaim the Confederates as US soldiers.

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9 hours ago, Fryfan said:

I do.

I treat our military as a unit that is a arm of our foreign policy and call the military out.  fug the military.

 

 

 

Why do you vote for and support Warhawks who extend and further these policies? 

 

As as far as I’m considered, if we are going to listen to the infinite wisdom of CH troll @GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER, anyone who has voted in a presidential election since 2000 is equally as responsible for the death of Iraqis and black and brown people globally. You personally pulled the lever to put the people in place to have these people die. 

 

You voted for obama? You are responsible for the countless drone strikes ordered under his watch. Voted for Hillary? You think she wouldn’t get us into more wars in the Middle East? North Korea? You’re kidding yourselves.

 

you are also a cog in the American military machine. A whiny little kid on the internet with no life experience because it’s easy to say “fug the military” on the huddle than actually do something.

 

how do you feel about the thousands of minorities and POC of color who join the military because it’s better than doing drugs, being in a gang, going to prison, or dying? I guess you think they are piece of poo murders to. Guess they are racists who want to kill brown people as well. 

 

Fryfan is a poo poster and so is Google who ever the fug. He’s a toxic internet troll and I know he’s been jacking off to this thread being able to bash another group of people who a majority of people don’t deserve to be. 

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10 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

You voted for obama? You are responsible for the countless drone strikes ordered under his watch. Voted for Hillary? You think she wouldn’t get us into more wars in the Middle East? North Korea? You’re kidding yourselves.

i mean, yeah

10 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

you are also a cog in the American military machine. A whiny little kid on the internet with no life experience because it’s easy to say “fug the military” on the huddle than actually do something.

you don't know a thing about what i do and don't do

12 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

how do you feel about the thousands of minorities and POC of color who join the military because it’s better than doing drugs

false

12 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

being in a gang

debatable but if your gut instinct is to defend the military instead of directly addressing at every opportunity the material conditions that lead a very small sliver of troops to reject gangs and enlist then i have reason to believe you're a reactionary who's not arguing in good faith. if your escape from violence is more violence then it's not much of an escape at all, is it? see, the difference for you is that you see the violence of the US military as a more moral violence than gang violence. i do not because it's not.

16 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

going to prison

false. i have respect for troops who would rather face jail than carry out an illegal war. that's sacrifice. not whatever the vast majority of troops think they're doing.

17 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

or dying

rather than kill iraqis who had literally nothing to do with the conditions that would lead to their untimely deaths, maybe potential troops "looking for a way out" should instead focus their anger and desperation on those who placed them in their unfortunate situation.

too bad the bulk of troops are middle class white guys who join for some combination of status, handouts, and the opportunity to kill people

21 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

He’s a toxic internet troll and I know he’s been jacking off to this thread being able to bash another group of people who a majority of people don’t deserve to be. 

a majority of people don't deserve to be troops? lmao

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8 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

i mean, yeah

you don't know a thing about what i do and don't do

false

debatable but if your gut instinct is to defend the military instead of directly addressing at every opportunity the material conditions that lead a very small sliver of troops to reject gangs and enlist then i have reason to believe you're a reactionary who's not arguing in good faith. if your escape from violence is more violence then it's not much of an escape at all, is it? see, the difference for you is that you see the violence of the US military as a more moral violence than gang violence. i do not because it's not.

false. i have respect for troops who would rather face jail than carry out an illegal war. that's sacrifice. not whatever the vast majority of troops think they're doing.

rather than kill iraqis who had literally nothing to do with the conditions that would lead to their untimely deaths, maybe potential troops "looking for a way out" should instead focus their anger and desperation on those who placed them in their unfortunate situation.

too bad the bulk of troops are middle class white guys who join for some combination of status, handouts, and the opportunity to kill people

a majority of people don't deserve to be troops? lmao

I don’t know a thing about what you do but from your posts and your toxic nature I can only assume it’s jack poo.

 

if your gut instinct is to trash a majority of people who mostly just want to better their lives by getting a free education or travel/get life experience but you pay taxes to fund this illegal enterprise that has murdered so many brown people than you are equally culpable to their murder. Unless you aren’t an American citizen, don’t vote or pay taxes you are a hypocritical piece of trash and your words are just hot air said so you can feel superior to less than 1% of the population who actually join or were smart and didn’t want to put themselves in debt, join a gang, lose their lives to addiction, end up in jail, or be homeless. 

 

you wanna talk about not arguing in good faith. Save your “Rebel against authority” tumblr rant for someone naive enough to actually entertain your bs. 

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3 minutes ago, CarolinaCoolin said:

I don’t know a thing about what you do but from your posts and your toxic nature I can only assume it’s jack poo.

 

if your gut instinct is to trash a majority of people who mostly just want to better their lives by getting a free education or travel/get life experience but you pay taxes to fund this illegal enterprise that has murdered so many brown people than you are equally culpable to their murder. Unless you aren’t an American citizen, don’t vote or pay taxes you are a hypocritical piece of trash and your words are just hot air said so you can feel superior to less than 1% of the population who actually join or were smart and didn’t want to put themselves in debt, join a gang, lose their lives to addiction, end up in jail, or be homeless. 

 

you wanna talk about not arguing in good faith. Save your “Rebel against authority” tumblr rant for someone naive enough to actually entertain your bs. 

lot to unpack with this post lol

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2 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

lot to unpack with this post lol

Save yourself the time and just jack off to the thread like you have been. I know youre a hypocritic. You think I’m a murderer cause I joined the Air Force. We are done here

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