CPantherKing

Hurts is the best of the QBs drafted in the 2020s too. Hurts and Herbert show us the sad state of QBs in the NFL this decade.

These are some of the best teams in the league. May be the worst decade with the Chiefs on the decline. Appears the league is up for grabs and the Bills may have the playoff edge by default.

FUN FACT Panthers don't lose another game for the 2025 season... They're SB champs!

I like Drake Maye, but you're forgetting Maye lost to the Raiders and his victories have been to teams worse than the Vikings. Also, Daniels isn't ready to play again imo. He needs to recover. That left arm is important for balance, rotational power and accuracy. He also needs that left arm to scramble like he does.

Watching these games every week and seeing the players you wanted coming out of college makes you wonder how bad a front office needs to be to miss on them.

Went sideways on many successful defensive coaches after a a couple years of inconsistency. They never got a break after getting to championship games and winning the division title. Where's the logic in staying with a struggling defensive coach for half a decade? Capers. Fangio, Seifert, Fox, Rivera, Wilks. Why does Evero get half a decade of chances when these other coaches were tossed after a year or two of struggles while already proving their success as a DC/HC? I slotted the Panthers for a 6 win season and expected needed changes before another fall. If the Panthers can't beat Saints, Seahawks and Bucs, then changes need to be made. This is the 4 game stretch that determines the future of the team. All are must win games (maybe one loss to the Bucs will be allowed with a 10 win record), but no one deserves a long term contract with their track record.

Clutch gene? But in 3 years the Panthers haven't had a 3 game winning streak. These next 4 games will determine if the Panthers carved out a franchise QB for the next decade or sealed their fate as runner-ups in the NFC as they parted ways from the success staring the Panthers in the face in 2022. For perspective, Kerry Collins (95, 96, 97), Rodney Peete (02), Jake Delhomme (03, 04, 05, 06, 08), Cam Newton (12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18), Kyle Allen (19), Bridgewater (20), Darnold (21) all led the Panthers to at least a 3 game winning streak. Beuerlein couldn't do it and was replaced by Lewis/Weinke. Delhomme failed to do it one year and was replaced with Clausen. Bryce hasn't done it for 3 consecutive seasons & he is suppose to be better than all of them? Standards are way too low for Bryce.

15 completions. Less than 4 passes per quarter. 2 of his passes were on 4th down with the defense pressing. That was half of his offensive production. TMac and XL only had 1 reception each. Coker & Evans were his main targets. Couldn't even get Tremble and Sanders effectively involved. It was the Rico & Chuba show splitting 39 plays. The dowfield pass was used sparingly with good playcalling on 4th and short. There was no air game. Just 2 4th down highlights as his pass to Chuba was a swing pass behind the LoS. Playcalling, OL and RBs carried the offense.

Running game is good. Receivers are looking great with their development. Offensive playcalling has been good. Pass pro is average and improving. The weakest and most inconsistent part of the offense is the QB. 5th year option sounds like a definite way to maintain that weak link. Just let Canales choose his own QB room. He's done wonders with the receivers even when ownership wanted to hang on to Marshall and Mingo while unloading Moore

4th read? On a playaction? Do you not watch the ALL 22? There were 4 receivers on that play. Only 2 went beyond 2 yards on a 10 yard crossing route in front of a single high safety. The TE stayed in to block before releasing on a drag route and was never a read. Coker was motioned to the right to pull a defender to the sideline. This was a clear flat route and hot if the defender came on a blitz. The RB stayed in to block on the right side. Coming out of the playaction Bryce spots the defender for a possible blitz and then goes to his primary receiver on his left. The only receiver on the left coming out of the playaction was TMac. He clearly follows TMac to the cross in front of the safety and looks off the safety to the left. This is not a read to XL. It's looking off the safety. He swings his vision back to his primary in TMac and throws the ball to the numbers (20) 10 yards over the head of the DB when TMac reaches the right hashes near the 30 yard line before TMac even makes a cut. Bryce was never leading or throwing to the receiver. He was throwing to a spot based on the movement of 2 defenders. It was up to TMac to make this play happen with perfect timing, release, sell and cut on his route. Give credit to the play design. The defense is playing that route as a sideline route and TMac makes it happen with his body position and control as he cuts/drifts 10 yards up field to the spot he knew it was going to before the play. If that were a 4th progression read out of a playaction, you'd see 4 hitch steps and the receiver would have been led to the sideline as TMac would have never known the ball was going to be thrown 10 yards over the DBs head on a 10 yard cross to the sideline. You can also tell this is the desgin as Bryce sets to the left out of the playaction with XL on his right before the cross. Then he takes 3 bounce steps to move with the pocket as XL is late to the cross. His first hitch step is to the right after TMac crosses, which is followed by an immediate throw before a cut is made by TMac. TMac was the only receiver to the left on Bryce's set, and he was one of 2 WRs to the right on Bryce's first and only hitch step. Give TMac and the play design a bulk of the credit. Bryce did well, but he didn't sell the playaction or a possible pass to XL very well. He did do very well at throwing to a predetermined spot on the field after TMac set up that crossing route perfectly with XL and Sanders both late on developing their routes. Did you catch all that on the play? For some reason, you think there were 4 progressions out of play action with the defense pressing, Bryce setting his hips to the left with all 3 receivers on the right side of what you think was his 4th option as the only receiver on the left at the snap, and only 1 hitch step to the right after TMac waits for XL to cross left. Why would you think a QB would set their hips to the left when their first 3 progressions are on the right side of the field?

GWD is the critical stat for an NFL QB. What you need for perspective is GWD %. This is how many opportunities he converts. 2023 was 12.5%. 2024 was 33.3%. 2025 is 50%. Career is 28.9%. A consistent playoff winning QB is in the 30% range. A championship caliber QB is in the 40% range. He has been tracking well even with his major limitations under the development of Canales. This is the only reason he is holding on, but he is at the same level of a Derek Carr with the Raiders. Carr was 32.4% GWD in his first 3 seasons with 12 GWD in 37 opportunities. This gives you perspective on why he is frustrating to evaluate. Carr did what for the Raiders? 2 winning seasons in 9 seasons with 4 different HCs/OCs. This is what we want as Panthers fans? A decade of average with potential and many moments of hope? At least he'll win a QB skill competition like Carr, right?

You can say he is not a franchise QB and easily replaceable. He's good, but his limitations keep the playbook limited. Canales designing these plays with receivers sneaking behind the defense and the receivers ability to sell them is what we should be talking about. He has to work 10 times harder than he did with Baker in Tampa

Run. Run. Run. Call a play that gets a WR behind the defense for a one read and throw for the QB. Those were well designed play calls and coaching with excellent selling by the WRs. Bryce just needed to throw it without messing up like a top ranked HS QB. Less than 4 completions per quarter as orchestrated by Canales. Tet and XL both had 1 reception each and Coker had 4. He wasn't slinging dots. He was checking down to RBs and TEs while waiting for Canales to get the receivers open for him He's a PG and not a QB

Give Canales credit for drawing up these plays and using them sparingly to keep Bryce from throwing too much. Receivers are just running open behind the defense

Baker storyline is more important for the league. Panthers have to beat the Rams and league office in NYC

Tired of missing on talent from North Carolina like Kobie Turner. Why is our scouting department so bad? You could field a SB championship team with North/South Carolina talent as well as the Georgia and Alabama defenses

For his super processor, Bryce glitches when it comes to the plays and field position where he can't take a sack

Anyone research the Rams record on the east coast in cold weather games? It's their kryptonite.

Got to protect the billionaires in the stadium

Remind me why an old Cam Newton, Kyle Allen or Taylor Heinicke couldn't do the same as Bryce while affording the Panthers draft picks to load up a defense?

Look, it's the Brown brothers. Wanted to draft them as Panthers.

All the underdogs win on Thanksgiving with big money placed on the Lions, Chiefs & Ravens. 2 of the home teams lose. Not suspicious at all

Is the NFL really going to end the Andy Reid Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day? Breaking up with Taylor Swift going into the holiday season? Let's see how these calls and reviews go

Nose of ball hit the ground on back side, but they don't want you to see that. That was an effort to keep the Packers in the game by the NFL. Parsons allowed to spear the QB in the facemask at the GL, Too many bad calls or no calls in that game from the start. Ruined it

When is leading with the crown of the helmet into the QBs facemask not a penalty?