grimesgoat

I imagine the NFL frowns on teams not competing. The guys on a 1-year (Haynes, Bozeman, Littleton, and Loanidas) are all on pretty cheap deals. I imagine they can find similar players next year or maybe these guys return. We have 6 picks this year and we should have a full complement next year. We only roster 53 guys so everyone can't be on a 2+ year contract and expect all draftees to make the team. Keep your homegrown talent and build through the draft means a few 1-year contracts along the way. I think they believe they can be competitive throughout the year if things come together and CMC plays a full year. If we are hovering around .500 and in the playoff picture, fans will remain engaged and tuning in. Hell, we were above .500 last year when CMC played, despite the Darnold and a horrendous offense (scheme and OL). This roster will not win a superb owl, but hopefully it will compete.

Continue the rebuild. Trade back with Seattle. Let them take Willis. Draft Corral at 9. Grab a DE, G, or T with the extra pick. Start Darnold for 9 games. If we are 4-5 or worse, make the change to Corral. If we have a winning record after 9 games, wait until we are eliminated and make the switch. After 2022, we will be off Darnold. We'll have a decent idea who Corral is. Our Offense and defense will be in good shape. And we'll have a full complement of picks. 2022 is dark, but the future is bright (for those with patience).

I agree with some of your opinions. If Ekonwu or Neal are there at 6, I think those are good picks. But I disagree with your assessment of these QBs. Many folks are mocking these guys in the top half of the first. They all have the tools and smarts for success. And history has proven you can win a championship with a QB that was not taken in the top 5. Other than Peyton, Eli, and Stafford, I believe that every QB that has won a SB since 2000 was drafted at pick 6 or later. For example Mahomes (10th), Rogers (24th), Roethlisberger (11th), Flacco (18th). Hell, Foles, Johnson, Wilson, and Brady were picked in the 3rd round or later. Point is, NFL teams have been winning SBs for years without the best QB on the planet on their roster. No reason to think Panthers can't build around one of these 3 guys and get where they want to go. Strong OL, Strong D, and an above average QB is a formula that has proven to work.

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I agree with you guys, but I'm surprised the poo police hasn't been by.

If true, that would be much better than sending out a draft pick to get rid of Darnold's contract. Heck, you could immediately cut Garapollo (none of his salary is guaranteed) and be in the same place as if you never guaranteed Sam's 5th year option. Then you'd have about 50m in cap. Sign a LT, trade for Minshew, and draft your QB.

I'm one of the few people on here that think there is some value to Darnold. He probably will not take anyone to the SB, but he could still be a bridge to better times. In Darnold's last 8 games of 2019, he went 6-2. He was 163-267 (61%) 2,047 yds, 13 TDs (4 ints) and was sacked 15 times. That's actually pretty good. The next year, he was hurt and the Jets were horrifying. Then he comes to Carolina and he's saddled with a below average coach and OC and a historically bad offensive line. Point is - there is something there. Someone will believe he can get it out of Sam. He's not worth 18m, but no reason to just flush it. Unless he's some kind of huge douche, I don't get the desperation to "get him out of the building". Sign a LT. Draft a QB at 6. Start Sam for 8 games. Keep starting him if we are still competing for the playoffs. By the 11th or 12th game, turn the reins over to your draftee for some on-the-job training. It ain't that hard.

Our draft picks will be cheap. We only have one that will cost anything. The others will just replace guys already making the minimum. Also depends on how you structure the contract. Offer 2-year, 30m with a 14m signing bonus and 1m salary in year 1. He gets 15m in cash in year 1, but salary cap hit is only 8m. Year two, his salary is 15m. You can keep him and the total cap hit is 22m, or cut him and the dead cap hit is 7m and you save 15m.

The hope is they don't fall in love with any of the top 3 QBs. That way a trade down is risk-free because at least 1 of these guys will be around in the mid-first (if not all of them).

I think Hekker, Loannidas, and DJ extension are not accounted for. The Hekker and Loannidas signings will be negligible since they will replace other players that were already accounting around $1m. The DJ extension will be expensive, but with a large signing bonus, may actually increase the available cap.

Yep - that's me.

Absolutely. Take a year, gather assets, hire a new coach, then strike.

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I think you are being generous. I'd love to play poker with some of these folks. Looking to fold before the cards are even dealt.

Does anyone else find this a little creepy?

Not sure this works. He doesn't like working for Amazon/Google. He's looking for another company. People are recruiting him. I don't poo on any of them until I understand what they are offering, because I hate working for Amazon/Google and I need a new job.

If or when someone wants to interview you for a job, is your response going to be "sure i'll listen to what you have to say" or "*** you, you're wasting my time"?

I don't get this take. We don't know what the offer is. We don't know if the offer has been increased. We just know it was good enough for a face-to-face and nothing else. The only people getting played are the folks that are buying the media-generating drama.

I’m the same place. But I have DJ instead if Chinn.

I think everyone can learn from a mistake. Especially people that have amassed tremendous wealth. Can't imagine they'd be in the position they are in if they were incapable of learning.

I just don't see the follow up. If the genie is out of the lamp and it worked, then yeah - there would be leverage for coaches. But right now it looks to be a bust. An experiment gone horribly wrong and not to be repeated. Oh well. Agree to disagree. I'll reconsider if someone else gets a stupid deal like this.

How did hiring Rhule reset the coaching market. If anything, Rhule is a cautionary tale. If you overpay for a lemon, it doesn't mean everyone else will suddenly rush out and overpay for a lemon. And after seeing seattle get that haul for Wilson and Rodgers get 150m, I can't imagine what we have to pay for Watson will be significantly more insane.

Think of this as an investment. Best case - he makes us competitive and gets us in the playoff conversation for the next 5 years. or - we are not able to build anything of note in 3-4 years and decide to tear it all down again and start fresh. Dude will probably still be worth 3 first round picks at age 32. I think people see the 3 first rounders going out and forget we now have an asset that could probably be flipped for 3 first rounders in the future. We're not permanently losing the draft capital - just moving it into another asset (although realistically, that asset could get hurt and be worth much less at some point). Tepper is a hedge fund guy. This is probably how he is looking at this.