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I’m not the confused one. Thinking Rhule had nothing to do with signing Teddy(or any players) is comical. Which moves were Rhule’s? Just the good ones. What was the new Cap guy doing? Who coached him for a year? Who was recommending him to Rhule 6 years before he was hired here? A New HC with a 7/70M contract isn’t letting a lame-duck GM who ruined the team TWICE, pick and decide what to pay his QB. And what is the “money we will never get back” supposed to mean? Cap space isn’t a use it or lose it. You could have the same exact team and around 100M in cap space, right now. Value means play/pay.

Yes. Because he gave Bridgewater 31M for one year of play that was similar to Kyle Allen at the 1M he could have kept him at. Add in many other questionable decisions and 80M in cap space was used for no reason at all. Think that might help with the OL?

The first post is from here, months before SB signed up. With word for word identical thoughts about the team being run like a TV show. The second is from Pats board where he wants Cam to “subjugate” himself to Belichik. Much like all players should do what the owners tell them. With the username RASTAN99 much like his RASTAN66 on here. When I challenged his comments I got this. Not sure what else you need as proof? On the Game Day Roster Aug 4, 2020 You do realize they have banned me repeatedly? That's why I can't post anymore. Do you remember the guy who presented the detailed expected value calculations that supported bringing back Cam? Yeah that was me. Remember the guy who kept harping on "optionality" and maintained that Tepper would for sure bring Cam back because from an "optionality" perspective it was the only logical move to make? Yeah that was me to. Do you remember Kyle Bailey talking on WFNZ about the concept of "optionality" for months and using it to support his position that the Panthers could & should bring Cam back? Yeah he got that from me. By the time I squeezed back onto the Huddle with the name similar to this one the deal for Teddy had already been made to the narrative changed. Huddle disappeared all the expected-value and optionality content, not sure why the RASTAN66 stuff was allowed to stay up.

Despite all evidence to the contrary. And in his usual move, treat this proof like it doesn’t exist. Who else is it that admitted to being banned multiple times, and says exactly what he has preached for a year? That people fell, and are still falling for this is just sad.

Remember when I asked if he had been banned for racist remarks before? This is what I meant, and why I asked. One of many. RASTAN99 On the Game Day Roster Aug 4, 2020 Add bookmark #73 He's healthy as a horse. All players are at risk of getting hurt in the course of an NFL season. In my opinion if Cam wins the starting job but isn't able to play a complete season due to a physical problem, it won't because of any legacy foot/shoulder issues, but rather a new injury. I have a hunch that after all the injury misfortune, this pitfall is behind him. (assumes he makes good decisions on sliding, cuts out showboating to eliminate targeting by opposing D, etc) If BB is able to subjugate Cam and both go all in the ride will be a lot longer than 2 years....it could be a great 5-7 year run. (I was going to say "epic run" but caught myself..."epic" has a whole different connotation with this franchise vs. any other!) The best possible long-term option might just be on the roster today....gonna be fun to watch!

Chuck has been yanking y’all around with this BS through multiple ALTs. The post below was one of the first and 4 months before Sizzle signed up. He was all over the Pats forum saying Cam needed to “subjugate” himself to Belichik. So that fits the pattern shown here. Plenty more proof if he wants to deny it. RASTAN66 Posted April 7, 2020 And true. It amazes me how many folks think Hurney is running the show -- couldn't be further from the truth. Hurndog doesn't have the authority to pull the trigger on ANYTHING without the approval of Tepper and/or Rhule. For those of you who may watch Billions...Tepper is Axe...Rhule is Dollar Bill (a portfolio manager with limited trading authority)...Hurndog is a supporting analyst with no trading authority (unless it is co-brokered with Rhule and doesn't exceed Rhule's size limits).

Only explanation is the ignorant FO is just doing a “dumb” check or putting him out there if a team loses its QB and gets desperate. They can’t play him now. Or ever. He’s an asset only now. Or maybe liability is closer. Can’t add injured to issues.

Which makes you what then? I forgot more yesterday about football than you will ever know. Which is proven every day with your sentence fragment whines. Wanna compare. Anytime you’re ready. But we know that you, or the other “cheerleaders” will never do that because it would show the truth. Anytime you want to test football acumen…I’m game. It won’t take long to show the “stupid” one among us. Or continue to deflect away from any and all discussions of the team and football.

How the hell do you make a vague, nonsensical comment about any post that dares say the team isn’t perfect? Every day?

That’s some Flat Earth poo right there. Wait? Which one of them posted this? Really doesn’t matter. Either is unbelievable

It’s amazing how far some will go to hide their glaring lack of knowledge. And now old “Hit and Run MD” jumps in his POM-POM car and and complains about complaining. SSDD. Because we sure know he can’t form an actual thought because he never has.

Sure. Any time you want to test it out we can do it. I can also show how you reAlly have only one opinion. Team is right, attack anyone who says otherwise. For a team that is 3-21 in the 2nd half of the last 3 seasons. How correct were you? Where do you want to start?

Nope. I live in reality. Not a world where I have to hear only what I agree with. That’s why I can see how things are going to actually happen, and proved it on here. And all you know is hope and trashing anything that disturbs your fantasy world. Facts are literally painful to you.

Why not? You made up your own version of reality so many times on here, it’s just become instinct at this point. Telling me I was right is being gracious, but he went to the trouble of running the numbers again which is where the 47th ranked edge rusher “cash spent number. Was that gracious too? Again, where is this apology I made him say? Where? Those are your words. You just can’t handle two people having an adult conversation and working things out. You want me to be wrong so bad it killing you. CMC has a 6.9M salary this year because it’s restructured(like Reddick) if he puts up 7M worth of production, is that a good thing? Or do you still consider him the highest paid RB ever and judge him with all the guaranteed money that got kicked down the road.

And he said I was correct. The Panthers are paying 6M for his services. Not 2M. For one year. And where is this gracious apology you speak of? The one you called “sarcastic” in the first post (which I agree it was). Is the only one. So I brought up a flaw, he agreed it had merit, but you can dream all this other stuff up that didn’t happen. The adults have no problem. It’s your clueless, hypocritical self that has the issue as always. Delusional insecurities. You can’t discuss actual football topics so you devolve threads into this BS. Find anything I was wrong about over the last 4 years and I’ll never post here again. Easy enough for you. You can be a hero. Rid the board of me. Otherwise, ignore me and continue complaining about complaining.

So he was being “sarcastic” and “gracious” and whatever he did I made him do it. sure, that sounds about par for the course coming from you. Everything was fine. You had to jump in and crank it up to something it never was. If I had the same exact attitude, but was claiming greatness for every Panther, all the time, you would be cheering every word. You can return to your bashing of others in your own hypocritical way. Why do you get to be a dickhead?

So how did I “make” him apologize if he never really did. Which story is it?

This is a post, in this thread. I’m wrong but correct. According to the poster himself. But you keep deflecting away from any sort of facts and just want to keep making poo up. Another fairy tale to keep the delusion going. I know it’s your thing to attack anyone with a different opinion, but at what point are you the one with the insecurities of a teenage girl.

He didn’t have to apologize to me at all. Which is why I specifically asked why he did. And what was I supposed to apologize for? I told him the truth. And explained it was out of respect. And so he knew because he put his name on it. We are both fine. What’s your issue except it isn’t a 100% positive about the team? I know all about your post history. It hasn’t changed since the first day I got here over 6 years ago. You might as well just post GO TEAM and it would save time. Everyone knows your opinion on everything already. You spend all your time complaining about people complaining. Want to show me some posts where you don’t do that?

Whose thread? Why did you quote this person? Are you losing it? And again, if I’m wrong how about you show me what I’m wrong about. How many times does Ellis have to say I was right that the numbers were wrong? As usual, if it isn’t positive about the Panthers, it’s a lie. Find something to back up your statement or STFU.

The difference is two people with actual football knowledge were able to solve any issues in a couple posts and find an agreeable point. The numbers were wrong. I posted it to one of the very few posters I respect on here. You dive into every thread that says it’s even possible the team might be wrong. About anything. No facts, no points no reason ever given but “fandom”. Either find where I’ve been wrong like I said or put me on ignore. That’s why you have to bitch about me being the fan of another team. Who still knows more about your team than you ever will.

Ok. Over the last 4 years. Pick any move or discussion point about this team and we can see what each of us said on the subject. Any you want. Find one where I was wrong. Or find anything that has you saying anything the team did was a mistake. You want to call me a liar, prove it. It’s all right on here. Tell me specifically what isn’t true in my statement above. And the Cap involves facts that can’t be denied by the “sunshine and puppies” crew who think a person hates the player personally if you comment he makes too much.

I didn’t mean it to attack anything. I just thought you would like to know there was more to it if you were putting your name on it. Meant no disrespect as I’ve enjoyed your takes for years.

I like watching train wrecks. And Since I had to watch Cam play for this pitiful organization for the better part of a decade, and never discussed him at all, I have earned the right to state an opinion once in awhile. You just don’t like it because it’s usually right. And it’s all on here for proof. Just like your years of whining about how every move the team makes is perfect, but the Panthers pick top 10 on the reg. Do you have negative facts about team notification on yours. Because you have spent years doing the same thing and being wrong all the time.

And the team that he did all that for had no desire to pay that bargain price to keep him. What happens when he has to stop the run?