Mr. Scot

Rivera made it pretty clear he'd be happy to have him around. And per the terms of the Exempt list, he NFL didn't have the right to tell him not to come around.

'Conduct detrimental' can be a really flexible phrase. I get what you mean, but didn't they already stand with Ray Rice?

'Conduct detrimental' perhaps. I don't think it happens myself, but it's possible.

A regular suspension forbids a guy from even being around the team. Hardy wasn't prohibited from being on the facilities or even being at games to cheer teammates on. He just didn't come around.

I'm amazed at how many people either don't know or just don't understand these facts. I'm of the mind that Hardy not 'choosing' to spend much of his considerable free time with his teammates did a lot to sour how the team felt about him. (all just speculation, of course)

You forgot the phrase "from the Dolphins".

By NFL terms, he hasn't actually been 'suspended' yet. The Exempt list is essentially a paid vacation. Suspension is unpaid and limits or disallows contact with the team..

Something his next team will have to account for. As for the team statement, it's your typical generic "yeah, we know" piece we see all the time.

Ah, the yapping terrier returns

Voth is probably the best source available for Panther info right now. That he has good contacts and sources within the organization is something pretty much no one doubts. Zod has testified plenty to that fact. If you wanna say he's wrong, show some evidence that contradicts him. If all you've got is you vs Voth, afraid you lose.

Gotcha, and I agree.

In other words, no.

That doesn't really say what you think it does though. He's saying Gettleman has nothing to do with the topic, not the decision. Reading further down the feed helps clarify. The GM is absolutely in on the decision.

What's your source that shows he's wrong? Do you have a better insider relationship with the team than he does?

Got a link or do I need to take your word for it?

He did more than tweet... http://blackandbluereview.com/dave-gettleman-intriguing-comments/ So, you have a better source than Voth?

People keep talking about Jerry Richardson... Do people just not know that Dave Gettleman exists?

Paid 13 million to do nothing... Where do I go to get 'punished' like that?

It's almost as if we have a different GM running the team now. Wow. When did that happen?

As difficult is this may be for you to comprehend, a GM is not judged on whether or not he signs your favorite players. Back to back playoffs for the first time ever, a steadily improving cap situation, two good drafts in a row, one of which produced the best rookie class this team has ever seen, a team on the rise and our first playoff win since 2005...These things are what you call "continuing to suck". That tells me clearly you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. And if you're going to give a rebuttal, at least attempt to bring something factual to the argument, something more intellectual than "he's fat and he sucks". I know I'm asking a lot, but you could at least try.

I'm not talking about generic reports like 'oh, they're in talks'. Do you know of specific reports of their meeting after the tag was applied?

That's too much to ask

Did they ever actually negotiate? 'Official position' is basically the public stance. It doesn't always line up with what actually is happening. It would have been pretty foolish to publicly state that it was a one year rental at the time.

So, division titles and playoff appearances every year then... Cool

Apparently not.