Khyber53

This is our get back on track game.

Panthers 24

Vikings 17

If his effort in doing his assigned routes matched his rant, he'd be unbeatable. 

And if he knew the guy was sitting on the route, he could have made more effort to contest it. Instead he just stood there looking as surprised as anyone. 

It's Henning, hands down. Sometimes the best choice isn't the shiniest one.

Here's the thing, bad teams at this point in the season may have already packed it in, but they don't want to get rid of good or decent O-linemen so that they have them in place for next season's rebuild.

Really good teams at this point in the season aren't messing with anything and are keeping their back-up linemen on hand in case of injuries.

Decent teams that are still figuring out if they have a shot or not aren't going to take a chance at losing an offensive linemen right now and mess up whatever chances they have of pulling out a decent season and potentially keeping coaching jobs. 

Literally no one is willing to give up on a lineman of the quality that would actually improve our play right now and probably not one before the trade deadline either. We're going to have to get better at coaching, scheming and developing. We might not want to say it, but the answer has to be on our roster because it's not out there in the wilderness.

5 hours ago, Squid Game said:

And Shaq definitely isn’t Luke or Davis. 

Actually, he's quite good and was performing at their level this season. He would have been last season, too,  but was having to cover for Whitehead's inability and with an incredibly young and understaffed defense.

Shaq is one of the best LBs in the league right now. 

20 minutes ago, travisura said:

I haven't read most of the negative threads past the first post because they mostly boil down to "O-Line bad" or "Offense bad" or just droning on about how we never win anything as a franchise. I'm just commenting on how there are two competing threads with 100% opposite headlines currently, and how it seems the Eagles game has polarized the Huddle. That is all.

Oh no, we've been polarized for a decade or so. We should probably be on medication for it.

Thanks OP for the hard work in going through all those plays. Sure hope someone on the coaching staff did at least that much work on dissecting the O-line.

I really didn't want to see us loading up two rookies on the right hand side of our line, but I think Christensen and Brown are going to have to make a go of it. Hopefully they can learn as they go. It may have to be run right and roll out for passes to the left for a bit. 

Daley, there's a sunk cost thing here and it's time we realize that he's just not going to be a starter there. Bench and ST for him. Elflein comes back, put him at LG, or slide Erving in there.

Paradis. Dang, I'm sorry but I don't see him either holding his own or helping out with protection calls at all. Might be time to shuffle him out and see if Tecklenburg can handle it.

At this point, I'm about ready to say reserve our first three picks in the draft for O-linemen, with a center being top priority. 

Let's just nickname them The Matadors.

23 minutes ago, Varking said:

There was a week I forgot to pick and it’s hard to boost your score if you miss a week or two. 

I'd also have to pick more winners each week. That's where the crinkle in my game plan is.

I'm picking, but I don't seem to be really improving my score. And this is why Vegas and I won't ever be a thing.

There's always the chance that if Robby could just get open on the routes they've assigned him, he'd be given more and different routes to experiment with. The dude has been half-assing it since the middle of last season to the point where he not only rarely gets open, he doesn't even serve as a decoy.

2/30 on seven targets man. Eleven targets for 5/46 the week before. Two targets for one reception and eight yards against Houston. Three receptions on six targets for 38 yards against NO. One reception on three targets in his revenge game vs the Jets for his lone touchdown and 57 yards.

Dude, catch more than half your targeted passes before ranting. Get open more to get more targets. The world ain't just go routes. 

Most teams, good and bad, lose two in a row at least once a season. We're 3-2, along with two other teams and only five teams in the league have a better record than us right now.

And there are 12 games to go.

It's a long journey to the end of the season, and we haven't gone very far, let's not turn around and go back home yet. Enjoy the ride. We're a better team than we were and there's a lot yet to happen.

5 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

The problem is that he was dumb enough to send this content to another professional in the NFL. It wasn't like it was a personal email to a friend or a text. He felt privileged enough to say this stupid poo to some good old boys in an NFL FO's. I'm willing to bet he's not the only one guilty of such things. If the NFL is to be highest standard then his ass definitely deserves to be canned.

Yanno, when I thought it was just the one comment in one e-mail, I thought the guy deserved some chance at redemption. Now more of it is coming out, troves of stuff, and I think that I was judging the iceberg by just the tip of it. There's a lot of problems there, this wasn't a one off "wish I had just reread it before I sent it" situation.

So, yeah, he deserved to be canned. He fell on his sword instead. In the end, I hope he does fix these problems in himself or at the very least someone else can learn from his massive, repeated mistakes.

Send them Sideshow Rob and a 5th.

Three things will determine this game:

1) Offensive line play for the Panthers. Can we provide even a modicum of protection, give Darnold just 1.5 seconds more to react?

2) Can our D-line get to Cousins early and often?

3) And probably most importantly, will CMC be available? If so, there are benefits he gives to #1 and #2 on the list. (He changes defensive attack schemes massively, and he can extend drives giving our D time to catch their breath).

When we win, we dominate time of possession and the three things above are big, big parts of that.

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

I’m not even trying to compare the players itself Mahomes vs Darnold.

mahomes has tools no one has seen before.

but he STILL couldn’t overcome bad OL play.  It was so noticing that the Chiefs FO made some major reactionary moves to overhaul that OL.  

this guy couldn’t overcome that and his FO did what they did because of it.

 

 

yet we somehow say that any elite QB would have looked good behind a historically bad OL yesterday 

I agree wholeheartedly. 

1 hour ago, frankw said:

 I'm pretty much over the college offense crap we need some real NFL experience in here.

This 100%. This isn't LSU picking on the Louisiana Tech Muddawgs. Joe Brady needs to remember to look at the part of the playbook that actually has directions for the linemen besides "Y'all stand there and block people."

And, he needs to oversee development of linemen. It's not just that these guys have been bad, but that they often look like they have no idea how to handle even the simplest stunts or movements by the d-line.

And let's look at the running game. That's some pretty straight-up college BS stuff there with run it up the middle, variants as to left or right of the center. Pitchouts, maybe an RPO once in a frikkin blue moon (Darnold was becoming a threat to run), how about a full back dash if you are trying to go up the middle? Chuba succeeded yesterday because of will over planning.

How about a rolling pocket? How about more bootlegs (Darnold was safest during a naked bootleg yesterday of all things)? Quicker developing routes? Benching Anderson for someone who will try to get open? How about just sending Anderson on go route after go route until he tires out some DBs? 

Anything. Please.

14 hours ago, Mayor Qumiby said:

Is absurd....other teams always walk around like it's their house and I'm sick of seeing a conservative 20% of opposing fans in our stadium , cheering and chanting or whatever. I wish we we were like other stadiums where opposing team fans were sketched out to even wear a shirt of the visiting team.

 

Do you ever think we get to that point or are we always gonna have a welcome mat for other teams?

I'm just going to venture that maybe we win more games and have a team to rally behind rather than just become a bunch of battery-throwing, parking lot brawling assholes.

But hey, if that's what you want, you be you.

Let's see how the season plays out. 12 more games ahead of us, we may need him more than we need the trade. He may also fade down the stretch or prove to be just one of a number of good options.

We're building a team here, not having a fire sale.

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Look man I get you're trying to rally the troops so to speak but this is malarkey and you know it. Mahomes has intangibles our qb is distinctly lacking rn like timing rhythm and the ability to connect deep with his receivers. Even when Sam has time he is misfiring we have no deep passing game to speak of and that is also a reason why defenses are teeing off on him. Yes we all agree about the oline I've been banging the table over it for weeks despite homers here trying to explain to us why it is actually good. But the line is not the only thing that separates us from a quality offense Sam Darnold has got to play much better and get on the same page we have given him weapons.

Umm, Mahomes' intangibles aren't very common, perhaps like four QBs in the league ever have had them like he does. So, let's leave him out of the conversation, as well as Rodgers, Brady and Wilson. Those are rare, best of their generation QBs and as such are unrealistic measuring sticks.

We're trying to determine if Darnold is good or not. No one is trying to make him legendary, so quit putting that up as your testing model.

Could say, Tannehill, Carr, Allen, Prescott, or Stafford have survived and thrived behind the line play we saw yesterday? I think, with the exception of Prescott, we've seen each of them behind bad offensive lines and all of them floundered. Tannehill was written off, as was Carr to the point where there was a time we all thought they would never be starting QBs again. Stafford, who is a world beater now, was literally doomed to purgatory in Detroit behind terrible lines for his whole career. Allen had difficulties his first year, but growth in his mobility and line improvements have pushed him to the top. Prescott hasn't had to play behind any kind of suspect line since probably high school.

Darnold's stuck right now, but it doesn't mean he's a failure, as one really bad game doesn't destroy his potential, just like three good games don't erase his past. We've got 12 more games to see how he does -- growth or wilt. 

The game is done. It cannot be undone.

Time to move on.

Darnold has been good to very good in four out of five of our games so far. 

CMC will be back next week and that changes the equation in massive ways. Darnold will perform well again and the o-line will see improvements (I hope).

8 hours ago, Verge said:

I know this was an embarrassing loss, and that last quarter definitely was some of the worst football I have watched. However, there are some things to look up to, regardless of the final results. 

-CMC is going to be back:
CMC coming back is swinging these games in our favor, it allows our outside receivers to shine a lot more, as well as slowing down the reactions on the opposing defense. He really is the ultimate weapon and is a consistent 7 point swing. 

-This defense is LEGIT: 
The first three quarters from this defense was absolutely insane, the Eagles could do NOTHING. It is up for the coaches and offensive players to make sure we take advantage of the short fields and multiple opportunities, we have dominated in every single first half but these games keep coming up close. It's one thing we have to work on, but this defense is not going anywhere, we are contenders with it in place. 

-Our tackle position may have just been figured out:
It wasn't amazing by any means, but it is the best tackle combo we have had this year, and it is sustainable. The play from the interior MUST improve, but we are not facing Cox and Hargrave every week, this line will have better games (No hope against TB unfortunately haha).

-Donte is a CB1:
As he has shown amazing growth this season, and truly has become a defensive leader, possibly our best defensive player. When Horn returns we are going to have three #1 CBs, possibly four if Henderson keeps improving.

-Our schedule is in our favor: 
Yeah yeah, I know, the Eagles were a game in our favor. It was a weird loss and again, I think CMC swings it for us. I really see no reason we do not enter the game against Arizona at 7-2.


Heads up Panthers fans. I think we are going to make the playoffs, and we are a contender, the good will outweigh the bad come time for the playoff race especially with this secondary. Keep Pounding!

Glad you're here. We all need someone to talk us in off the ledge. 12 games left to play, it's going to be a loooooong season if we give up now.

Chuba did really well, and the run blocking wasn't very good. He was a wise pick-up for the team.

Still, I'm hoping he'll be RB2 next week. Even with a really good RB, I don't like our chances, we've got to have CMC for this offense to move.

Crazy to think it, but CMC alone will help the O-line in their work.

12 hours ago, amcoolio said:

I’m on my phone but all you have to do is look at the game film to see all the open receivers today. Sorry your boy just can’t do it. 

You should also be able to see on your phone the beating Darnold took in the pocket as the line collapsed time and time again.

4 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

Yes there is. What a ridiculous statement. A lot of QB’s would have performed well enough to win. Sam had multiple open receivers including Robbie but he just can’t hit them in stride. Or he overlooks them and throws into double coverage instead. Sam has all the ability but doesn’t have the brain or eyes unfortunately 

Nah.