joemac

All these writers and analysts talking about us needing to make a trade or somehow move around to draft one of the big 3 QBs coming out this year.....as if we're not by far the worst team in the NFL and will almost 100% have one of the top 2 picks in the draft.

Hey I won 10 grand on a scratcher one time, and I hardly even play. So, OK? And with that way of looking at it, literally every single pick is analogous to a scratcher. How many first rounders completely bust? A pretty high percentage. Its all a crap shoot.

We should just forfeit all our picks after the 1st round from now on. I mean, whats the point right? Nobody EVER drafts superstar players outside the first round.

So what? What has happened in the past has no bearing on what will happen in the future. Each draft is completely different, and brings a new opportunity to get a good player. Would you rather NOT have 2nd and 3rd round picks?

Well there are currently only about 3 ways to acquire players in the NFL. The draft being the cheapest and the best opportunity to grab the youngest talent. Sure beats the hell out of overpaying a vet in free agency. The teams that stick their draft picks the best are usually the most successful.

Thats all well and good, but his last healthy year was 2019, and its damn near 2023.

I mean, if some team wants to throw us something crazy like 2 firsts and a third for Burns, we would be hard pressed not to take that deal. Would really suck to see him go, but damn that would set us up nicely for the future.

WTF are some of y'all smoking today? Why in the fug would we EVER consider trading Jaycee Horn? Thats absurd.

LOL Jesus Christ dude.

Why in the world would that ever be the case though? Corral looked utterly lost out there before he got hurt, and I am positive that either CJ Stroud or Bryce Young will come in Day 1 and QB circles around Corral.

I think some people here are severely overrating the impact CMC had on the game. Yall are acting like he was rushing for 1800 yards a season and scoring 20 TDs. He's had a grand total of 2 1000 yard rushing seasons, the last coming in 2019. We're almost in 2023. He had one really great season, 3 years ago. Since then, hes barely done anything. We gotta stop living in the past as Panthers fans.

You may not like the trade personally, but I don't see how you can say we got "hosed". We got 4 high to mid level draft picks for our oft-injured, super high priced RB. As I'm sure you know, its not that difficult to find a cheap, productive RB these days. RB's today are complimentary pieces, not something you invest in or design your offense around. 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks are nothing to sneeze at.

EXACTLY! What we are doing now, and probably into next year, is washing off the stink of the Rhule regime. Short term its going to be painful, but I see the vision now. We are positioning ourselves nicely to be contenders in 2024 and on. We will still have Horn and Ickey on rookie deals, a young hopefully franchise QB on a rookie deal, hopefully Burns on a new contract, DJ Moore, etc. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take 2 steps forward. Rhule was the worst thing to happen to this team maybe ever. All that bullshit is not going to be fixed overnight.

All anybody has been talking about for years is our terrible QB play. Obviously it all starts and ends there. We MUST have a good QB to be even a mediocre team. Which is why we are now all in on the tank, in order to secure the first pick, and draft one of the hopefully generational talents in Stroud and Young.

I think more and more we are going to see how utterly clueless Rhule was at roster building, as well as coaching. Giving that dumb sonofabitch final say on roster moves is ultimately what did this team in. We have made some seriously bone headed moves since he was here. Maybe now we can actually see what Fitterer has got as a GM without the dumbest, most bumbling Head Coach in NFL history screwing things up for him.

Nice. I can dig that.

I'm really not upset about the trade. Does it suck in the short term? Yeah - CMC is a helluva player, and the only thing that makes us semi-watchable this season. However, like you said, we FINALLY have a clear direction for the future. I feel like in the Rhule years they never really committed to rebuilding and thought they were good or smart enough to rebuild while also trying to make moves to be a contender, and we all see how that has worked out. You cannot do both. So, yeah these next 2 seasons are probably gonna be really painful, but at least I can now see the vision moving forward.

Hey guys, I hear Jon Gruden is available for the right price.

YIKES - the whole caveat to this is that New Orleans still holds his rights till after the 2024 season, and would likely require a huge trade package to get him....thats even if they gave us permission to speak with him in the first place. As nice as SP would be here, it was always a fantasy.

Nice, but the caveat to that is we probably only have a handful of players signed to the roster...

It really is a huge gamble for them. Because they still won't have a 1st in 2023 because of the Lance deal, right? So they will be down their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th picks in the 2023 draft as it stands now, and I imagine really backed up against the salary cap. If they don't win it all in the next 2 years, that team could crumble into a Panthers level poo show really quickly.

We have 18 million dollars in dead cap for CMC in 2023. After that hes cleared off the books. Which is good because if we had kept him his salary for the next 3 years is at least 15 mil per season. We will take our lumps on the cap next season, but 2024 and beyond we should be flush with cash.

Yeah, this hurts, but at least we don't have to watch CMC get stuffed up the middle on the goal line, and fail on 3rd down over and over and over again. Nice little haul, the 49ers better win it all this year, because they pretty much have traded their entire draft away next year.

Come on man.

Bruh. They all threw less than 8 picks. All in at least the high 60’s completion percentage. And Young has the most yards and TDs, aka the stats that actually matter. There is no way you can say Tua and Mac had way better stats than Young when he had more yards and more TDs with comparable everything else. If anything it’s a wash between the 3.