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I'm like this close to dropping him below Mond. He has some really bad tape, and is hard as hell to evaluate. His ND game is what I'm watching literally right now and it is just...not good?

Right

This is based on my grades when I was scouting them, as in as they entered the draft. I flip flopped all year between Herbert and Tua. Most of the year Herbert was my locked in #1 overall pick, but Burrow kind of flipped all that on it's head. I ultimately decided on Tua over Hebert by the slightest of margins just because of release time and lack of questions about offensive design. I had a serious draft crush on Herbert though.

Nah.

Hi there! This will be my updated draft thread, where I will keep my position rankings, top 50-100 players, rumors, etc etc I will update this constantly as we get closer to the draft and will post all rumors I hear within this thread to make it easier for you. With that being said I will start this thread with my updated top 50 separated by tiers and asterisks next to players the Panthers should/might target. Top 50 players: 1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE (Tier seperation) 2. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU* 3. Kyle Pitts, TE, FLO* 4. Penei Sewell, T, ORE* 5. Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU 6. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB, ND* 7. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 8. Rashawn Slater, T/G, NW * 9. Caleb Farley, CB, VT* 10. Micah Parsons, OLB/ILB, PST* (Tier separation) 11. Alijah Vera-Tucker, T/G, USC * 12. Kwity Paye, DE/DT, MICH 13. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC* 14. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU * 15. Justin Fields, QB, OHST* 16. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA (Tier separation) 17. Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami 18. Patrick Surtain, CB, ALA* 19. Christian Darrisaw, T, VT * 20. Carlos Basham, EDGE, WF 21. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 22. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL 23. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA 24. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO 25. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 26. Alex Leatherwood, T, ALA* 27. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO* 28. Javonte Williams, RB, UNC 29. Jamin Davis, LB, KEN* (Tier seperation) 30. Kadarious Toney, WR/RB, FLO 31. Gregory Rousseau, EDGE, MIA 32. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM 33. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MIC* 34. Greg Newsome, CB, NW* 35. Jevon Holland, S, ORE* 36. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA * 37. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU* 38. Nick Bolton, LB, MIZZ* 39. Jackson Carman, OT/G, CLE* 40. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR 41. Trey Hill, C, GEO* 42. Jay Tufele, DT, USC (Tier seperation) 43. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST 44. Samuel Cosmi, OT, TEX * 45. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST* 46. Teven Jenkins, OT, OKST* 47. Trey Smith, G, TEN * 48. Tyree Gillespie, S, MIZZ* 49. Marquez Stevenson, WR, HOU 50. Michael Carter, RB, UNC Also, since I was asked how I would rank this QB class compared to the last: 1. Trevor Lawrence 2. Joe Burrow 3. Zach Wilson 4. Tua Tagovailoa 5. Justin Herbert 6. Trey Lance 7. Justin Fields 8. Mac Jones 9. Kellen Mond 10. Jordan Love Verge's new top 5 at each position as of 3/20: QBs: 1. Trevor Lawrence, QB, CLE 2. Zach Wilson, QB, BYU 3. Justin Fields, QB, OHST 4. Trey Lance, QB, NDSU 5. Kellen Mond, QB, TAM RBs: 1. Travis Etienne, RB, CLE 2. Najee Harris, RB, ALA 3. Javonte Williams, RB, UNC 4. Kenny Gainwell, RB, MEM 5. Trey Sermon, RB, OHST WRs: 1. JaMarr Chase, WR, LSU 2. Jaylen Waddle, WR, ALA 3. Devonta Smith, WR, ALA 4. Kadarius Toney, WR, FLO 5. Rondale Moore, WR, PUR TEs: 1-5. Kyle Pitts, TE/WR, FLO 2. Brevin Jordan, TE, MIA 3. Pat Freiermuth, TE, PEN 4. Hunter Long, TE, BC 5. Tre McKitty, TE, GEO OT: 1. Penei Sewell, OT, ORE 2. Christian Darrisaw, OT, VT 3. Alex Leatherwood, OT, ALA 4. Jalen Mayfield, OT, MICH 5. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC Interior O-line: 1. Rashawn Slater, OT/G/C, NW 2. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC 3. Landon Dickerson, C/G, ALA 4. Wyatt Davis, G, OHST 5. Trey Smith, G, TEN (depending on medicals) Edge: 1. Jaelan Philips, DE, MIA 2. Kwity Paye, DE, MICH 3. Gregory Rousseau, DE, MIA 4. Zaven Collins, EDGE, TUL 5. Azeez Ojulari, EDGE, GEO Defensive Tackle: 1. Christian Barmore, DT, ALA 2. Levi Onwuzurike, DT, WAS 3. Jay Tufele, DT, USC 4. Daviyon Nixon, DT, IOW 5. Marvin Wilson, DT, FST LB: 1. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, OLB/ILB/S, ND 2. Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, PEN 3. Jamin Davis, ILB/OLB, KEN 4. Nick Bolton, ILB/OLB, MIZZ 5. Jabril Cox, ILB/OLB, LSU S: 1. Jevon Holland, S, ORE 2. Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU 3. Tyree Gillespie, S, MIZZ 4. Richie Grant, S, CF 5. Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, FLST CB: 1. Jaycee Horn, CB, SC 2. Patrick Surtain II., CB, ALA 3. Caleb Farley, CB, VT 4. Tyson Campbell, CB, GEO 5. Kelvin Joseph, CB, KEN

He kind of looks like a butthole so yeah.

I wish La Canfora would get out of my DMs.

Yeah probably not.

I am in the minority here, but I don't really think Trey Lance will need to sit. He would certainly walk out day 1 better than Teddy.

He certainly helped himself with his pro day. I have all the confidence in the world in Lance.

Good catch.

Pretty weird for someone who Chris Simms thinks is a 2nd round pick at best

Was doing some more WR watching today and found a neato little highlight tape of Rondale Moore. Very similar to Steve in his physicality, speed, and size.

I think that is entirely dependent on what the Texans need in a deal and if we can meet them. We will damn sure outbid anyone, but if they want a young stud starting QB, that is not something we can provide. I still think we are the most likely to get him, but if they wake up tomorrow and say I want Zach Wilson or Tua 100% then we can't make that happen.

I can quote myself from like three months ago. Deshaun Watson will not be a Texan and the Panthers are all in on Deshaun Watson. That's the update

Uhhh I kind of doubt it at this point. I would move off the idea that he won't be on the team anymore unless it is to move him for Deshaun Watson.

Yep. The restructure is odd, I will give you that. I was told he was "on the block"

His final game reminded me a lot of Herbert's final game.

Well sure he has all the physical traits in the world, has shown immense productivity in a good QB offense, never made mistakes, has good mechanics, is an athletic freak, and looks like a 7th grader vs 3rd graders. I'm just iffy on the amount of starts he has. Herp derp. What do people think he has been doing over the last 12 months? Playing Mario Kart? He has been preparing to become a NFL quarterback.

Lol absolutely ridiculous.

It's like Gettleman never left

I doubt it. There wasn't much doubt around the league that this was going to get done.

Lmao

1. I don't think Jacksonville would trade him 2. We would be in the same situation we are in now next year but with a slightly better QB