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I'd put Higgins in the DJ Moore tier. I mean, I'd take him. I'm still not sure how much he really helps Bryce. I think with Bryce we really need to spread the field and give up some quick WRs/RBs to fixate on small ball. That's what he is at this level. A dink and dunk QB. We need some slot speed and a stud TE IMO paired up w/ a receiving RB (and we got zero parts for that trio). Ultimately, I think Higgins stays in Cincy

you don't need a bellcow RB in today's NFL. If you have a good pass game and scheme....anyone can run. You can draft a RB. CMC is an icing on the cake type player. Luxury.

1 dawg. Derrick Brown. I personally don’t equate being good to equaling dog status. Example. 89 - dawg DJ - great football player I judge it via how I think the opposing eyes would view things. Ain’t no defender in the NFL bothered with an Adam Theilen matchup

I’d put WR worse as you largely have 2-3 starters at the spot. And we still can’t hit on 1.

Which makes the DJ trade even worse. A million reasons it’s bad. But it’s the one spot we have been the worst at finding talent at. DL? We can find that.

2015 Peyton but with legs and tiny

I mean, it’s the huddle. People were claiming Ben McAdoo was gonna be a difference maker and Matt Rhule want in over his head going into year 3. The list is long of what Panther fans will convince themselves in the name of down being up.

I mean, some starters aren’t really starters. Look at Bears list of guys that were compared. That’s who Bryce is mixing it up with.

Yep, all the comparables aren’t guys any team ever planned to build around. They were shots in the dark or depth that sometimes find their way into the starting lineup briefly. Purdy obviously looking to be the anomaly in the best situation in the NFL. I mean I don’t expect it to be public and said, but if Dan Morgan and company aren’t already acknowledging that this was most likely an error and prepping soon for that…..then we don’t have the right guy.

the Bama boys could probably all start a club. Hurts is OU. Bama can't claim him in this convo because he couldn't pass until he got to OU.

in terms of that bottom 5 area, it's largely a mix of guys that happened to start this year. They aren't actually the plan for those teams. Replacements, band aid types etc. Generally, teams are drafting and attempting to build around dudes with elite tools. So you take a Trevor Lawerence who actually is hovering in that 15ish area Bryce defenders are claiming he occupies.....his physical tools blow the doors off Bryce.

all 32 starters in the NFL can't make the same throws in reality. Throws that exist for QB A might not for QB B. Bryce definitely falls in the camp that isn't going to be able to make all the throws top tier QBs in today's NFL have on the table.

Bryce Young is bottom 5 in terms of arm talent/strength in terms of NFL starters.

allegedly was catering things to maximize Burns....who disappointed in a contract year. he isn't aggressive. his teams don't tackle well. So.... I mean, he is way better than Thomas Brown/Frank Reich as a coordinator at this point. But we often are just comparing ourselves to ourselves.

I mean, Cam Newton wasn't playing the same game as Bryce Young. Cam wasn't checking the ball down and playing small ball. He was gunslinging most of his career. completion % almost goes out the window when comparing a QB checking down and playing small vs a gunslinger going for haymakers and chunks. One is supposed to have a much better completion %.

Justin Fields at least gave glimpses that he could be special down the road. That's sort of the Bryce issue. A full season, and he never gave you any of those glimpses to really fool yourself with and have hope. At no point did you ever watch him and go.....yeah, that's why we did it.

some of the total yardage is just teams choosing the conservative approach on us. No point getting overly risky when basic play vs us likely wins you the game. So they played D and ran on us more so than normal league trends.

I mean, it is what it is. Bar is different for a 1st rounder vs a 7th rounder. Just the way it is. What you cost impacts expectations

generally a #1 overall pick that you also give up additional first round picks and stud WRs for.....should come with all the bells and whistles. Not be some stock floor model. I mean, part of the Bryce Young issue.....is what he cost vs what he is. Which that's not really his fault but it's going to impact how people view him.

yeah, but that's why I think this is often word play. Can Bryce sit in a pocket and make throws. Sure. Can Bryce sit at the same depth in a pocket as Joe Flacco and see the field the same way though? No. I think that is impactful. Think it skews plays and where Bryce wants to be. Can Bryce get the ball to location X at the same time it takes a different QB to get the ball to location X? Depends on the throw. Because there are certain plays where Bryce Young flat out can't get the ball to where it needs to be in time because of his arm. It would technically get to the spot though.

lot of those long throws to the outside become gift wrapped balls for defenders to make plays on. I mean, the ball is going to get there. But it's not quick enough for a defender not have a shot at making a really good play on it. Same can be said for some of the those deeper balls in general if a small window pops up and he isn't set. They float. It gives defenders an edge.

I think the new HC can survive sucking next year if Bryce looks bad. He basically just has to check 1 box. Creative and good playcalling. Good vibes/culture too. I think Tepper will be willing to move on from Bryce Young after this year if need be. I don't agree with this narrative that Tepper can't admit he is wrong on something.....Tepper actually has an easy time admitting he is wrong and moving on from people. It's actually his one strength. His biggest flaw is never picking the right person from the start.