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Packers lost to the Browns this year heck, in the disaster finale Rule season, with an interim HC, the week after we cut CMC and starting PJ….we whipped Tom Brady. good teams lose to bad teams all the time, good teams lose to meh/average teams every single weekend in sports, multiple times over. You can not be a good team and have good wins. Really bad teams generally can’t stack multi good wins but average teams can

well, would be a disclaimer on that, they could beat anyone w/ that strategy if a team doesn't show up or plays poorly. We could play the Rams 10 times and play well in most, they are going to beat us the majority of the time. Pretty big disparity in talent still exists IMO.

if you didn't watch 3 plays.....the D that played the Rams looked exactly like last years. I mean the Rams are a very good offensive team but just how easy that walked the field us on all game is a tad concerning. and the Panthers should 100000% roll out the same gameplan vs the Saints. All you need is Jaycee Horn not to give up 2 massive TDs and it's an easy ugly win. We know how the winning forumula. It isn't balance. It's leaning on the run and having Bryce make very few throws that matter. Hope he can when the few moments call.

and we won a game in the playoffs.....where our leading receiver was Fozzy Whitaker w/ just 39 rec yards. That feels like a 2025 Panthers type winning setup.

Yep, the board has amnesia to the weekly swings and declarations made. The same cast of characters has been talked about vastly different repetitively and you only have to go back as far as the game before the last one....and just keep repeating that pattern largely backwards. I personally feel confident that this team is not bad and it is not good. And while that is nice to get back to be out of the literal dumpster......I don't view this team as an average team w/ a puncher's chance. All average teams are of different molds. We are more the, if a really good team plays bad, you will lose to us variety. We aren't bad enough where you can get away with a bad day vs us anymore.

Yep, we really have risen from being so that you almost have to try to be that bad….to average (which the league is basically engineered for you to be average)….and I do worry that the brainiacs at BOA will do and treat that as. We basically have a team that doesn’t stink yet not a thing scares someone. Division being down also complicates real perspective. Bucs and Saints have the 2 easiest schedules to date this season and one team stinks and the other likely is .500ish off that advantage

yeah, with a 7-10 finish and borderline top 10 pick still being on the spectrum of finish possibilities (at still wouldn't log as the best Tepper season given we have gotten there in a different really weird season that didn't make a lot of since).

I'm waiting until this entire odd season plays out fully to really judge anything. Or maybe I should say, change what the last several years has locked into place. This is one of the weirder seasons I have seen and hardest teams to really judge. Its a very schizophrenic team/season. And there are 2 very different ways the finish could present and the board would view things vastly different from both ends of the at finish spectrum.

Bryce hasn't been pushing the ball downfield in a lot of wins. I think that's basically how lose games. Asking that of him. Not sure why people want to lose a game we can win with the proven hide Bryce most of the game and win ugly approach. and people sort of skew the Rams came up. he did not push the ball downfield nor was he asked in that game. It was the same thing as the Saints game. There were just 2 random 4th all or nothing plays that present take shot gambles

He is just so weird. Bryce Young makes no sense. I still don't like the word inconsistent because that's not it. I do think there is a lot of consistency in what he is. I don't know. and in theory, I think Bryce should be better indoors. But his indoor games are so slim even that is hard to figure out. As good as he has been in Atlanta, he is equally bad in the Saints dome.

and in a lot of games, executing and coming back has involved being willing to stick w/ the run a fair amount on 3rd down. I just think the formula is pretty clear at this point. Maybe 2 or 3 real throws. That's really all you are wanting to ask of Bryce and you want them to be favorable. Anything more? Generally makes it a bad plan.

Mike Evans looked a billion times better than I was expecting last night.

Yeah, the Sean Payton Saints were. That was driven off the players we and them had, coaches like Payton, fights and the games. I’m just saying, present day there just isn’t that feeling that exists for me with any team. No bad blood and no personalities or moments drive anything with the present day rosters. Feel like we are waiting for a modern day rivalry to naturally manifest somewhere.

People just emotional about a loss. Thats a winning gameplan. Jayce Horn of all people giving up those 2 TDs just imploded it. Which doesn’t make it a bad plan because who would have called that. a repeat of the last NO gameplan is a 1000% better a better gameplan than the 49ers gameplan. And the NO gameplan was the Rams gameplan and Packers gameplan

It’s weird, but I don’t feel like the Panthers have a real rival present day.

tonight has the trio in play. well, it's football. it's a division game. and it's TNF. which means I feel there is no way to predict what shows up on the TV tonight but I need Bijan to score me some big fantasy points

Horn doesn't give up those TDs and we would have won it ugly last time. How many times has asking Bryce to do some early lifting put us in big holes? I just don't see why. If the goal is purely to win. but overall, yeah, I don't like watching that brand of football. but yeah, I think it is best in theory to ask Bryce to be legit QB attack what the Saints are daring him too. But that's generally not what Dave does w/ Bryce. He knows. Every once in a while he forgets (SF) because of the annual Falcons game. But I do think their is a formula Canales knows is the way.

to me it's the simple. The D needs to keep being there improving version. Run game has to be steady. And outside of that, you need others not to implode a boring way to go about winning. but it's a hard way to win and you need a lot go right

the most predictable Panthers ending based off how this season has gone. -The Saints beat us. Tampa also loses tonight. Folks are really mad at Bryce and Dave but hey, still in this. -The Bucs beat us. Go a game up. Complete board meltdown. 100 cut Bryce and Dave threads -Panthers beat the Seahawks by 10. Bucs lose to the Phins. Now, Bryce and Dave deserve deals. Today. 200 threads on that. People are guessing about playoff destinations and BigKat rents a hotel room in every imaginable city. - Bucs beat us. Board melts down.

I still think the game he shadowed Nuk Hopkins was his worst. Horn just fell on one. Life happens. Not bad DB play. I so think it it's a little over generous to give him both as pure trips/slips. They were brutal plays but he was largely solid outside of those 2 random plays. Nuk I think got in his head and he was just really bad that whole game.

That seems like a bad gameplan IMO. Just run the RBs. Hope no one on D has a disaster game. Play for the turnovers. Bryce's downfield throwing doesn't really work as means to back the S off. Never really has. That's how his bad play happens IMO. Canales basically has to wait it out and find the looks Bryce might can take advantage of. Which is man coverage/single coverage and you don't roll that dice often. Crowded boxes are a risk/reward strategy. One mistake and your RB can make some really big plays.

I think some of that, how many from 2023 still making plays thought.....ties into what the vision was. I mean, before Bryce Young took a week 1 snap, it was universally deemed the best place for any rookie QB to land. The reason of that was because on paper, it all made a lot of sense. A solid yet unspectacular HC. Surround the rookie with a stable of super safe vet JAGs that could all do what they were supposed to do for the young QB (safe vet JAGs don't have much of a career ahead of them). I think they tried to create a high floor, low ceiling start for Bryce to take off from.....and it just didn't work. On paper it made a lot of sense. Which most locally and nationally all thought too. I still think the fatal flaw, is Frank didn't want Bryce. And Bryce was never going to succeed being a Frank QB. And that's all Frank had in the bag.

well, the Colts are winning. Heck, they are surprising or were. My guess that has a lot to do w/ something not okay being totally okay for the moment. And the PR machine likely is running really hard for her at the moment. It's weird stuff. I mean, she was in the HC hip pocket working Rivers on the practice field. Really weird. I still would be willing to play the odds when things go south.....we find out there is more than one bonkers person in the Isray family tree.

Tepper got nothing on the old Colts owner or the new one. Not only is she in a full head set on the sidelines every game with the coaching staff. You got her at the practice w/ the HC working on Rivers lol. I don't know when it is going to happen but something crazy is going to go down in Indy sometime in the near future IMO. I mean, wait til the Colts hit a rough spot.

if anything occurs we/someone doesn't like it's all David Tepper's doing. If something good happens, Tepper was hands off. That's seems to be the general logic applied w/ Dave for some time. I think Tepper is probably an average owner in terms of involvement. I think he just really botched the big hires and the big hires did a bad job personally.