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Bryce been in the league going on 3 years…..and you can’t find two games where he has impressed more than Dart tonight. Truth is truth

Well, dead last because of their pass defense. Without the gimme yards of the AZ game we would probably rank 31st in passing. so in a shootout environment, our O is most defiantly going to be tested

Not sure Pickens is a great play but anyone that attacks the middle of our D is a fantastic pick in fantasy.

Dallas has the #1 offense and #4 in points. The game with Dallas is to outscore them. I don’t see us being able to compete in such a contest.

I mean if Rico Dowdle runs for 200+ yards and our D holds the opponent to less than 20 yards rushing....he might not need to make "clutch throws". But that also isn't' likely to ever happen again.....ever in his career. every Panther win thus far was pretty much been an anomaly that went our way that can't be replicated most Sundays. Career worst QB implosion type play or mindboggling rushing playing out on both ends.

XL isn’t QB friendly for Bryce. Conceded that when we drafted him and noted he only made sense if we were moving on from Bryce. He was a raw WR for the Canales offensive tree. And Bryce is not a QB for that tree. but it always brings us back to Bryce. Round peg. Square hole. they drafted an anomoly at QB that would only have a chance at being good in a unicorn offense. We are wasting our time. I advocated we should give it a go. We didn’t. So we should move on from him.

He was still a Pro Bowler/Playoff QB his 3rd year as a starter. all I’m saying is Bryce isn’t on the Brees arc

Give them all the same haircut lol

We went out and bought the most expensive OL in the NFL for him We paid 2 1k rushers in the backfield sure, we didn’t go out in FA to once again give him basically the complete perfect cast in FA a 3rd freaking time. We got a team to build and literally every resource can’t be devoted to Bryce. But most of our best draft collateral has been devoted to Bryce. the entire argument of drafting him is that we wouldn’t be doing what we are doing. the spending isn’t misleading. The investment needed around him has been off the charts overall and he still is Clausen-ish.

Again, most expensive OL in the NFL. 2 1000 yard RBs. And a ton of young investments of every shape and size at WR/TE. In no football conversation would anyone describe that as a terrible situation…..you would only find it being argued in a crazy Bryce Young defense thread. BY makes no one better. He makes them worse and life harder for all. and you can go find XL threads before we drafted him….and it was talked about how he only made sense if we were moving on from BY because BY wouldn’t be able to do diddly with that type raw talent. It wasn’t a pairing. BY needs a 100 TMacs to make something out Bryce chickenshit balls. You want it the other way around. A QB that lifts all boats. Not the boats pulling the QB along

In his 3rd year as a starter in SD he was a Pro Bowl QB in the playoffs….with 27 TD to 7 INTs. Bryce isn’t on that arc Using his year 1 where he didn’t start a single game and only appeared in 1 game in relief isn’t where you start the clock on a Brees comparison if you go by starts and reps, Brees at this point was on another planet from Bryce. This Brees comparison attempt is as silly as the Cam silliness

AT basically strong armed his way out of here

going into the season, I always said Jake Delhomme fits Canales better than any QB we have had here. Not that Jake's arm was great but Jake was willing to push the envelope downfield to open up the offense. The entire league has been sitting on our offense since Bryce arrived (Frank's and Canales).....and it makes football super hard. Small ball gets harder. Running gets harder.

strong OL, strong backfield...huge investment into tons of different young receiving options of all varieties. In no context has that every been described as a terrible situation for a QB. Just in Bryce Young defenseland.

We have had WRs open all year thus far. Bryce Young has missed them. That could change against some better teams later but to date, not getting open isn't our problem. It's the QB accurately putting the balls on people that is the issue. But I do agree Canales scheme doesn't fit a Renfrow and really won't fit Horn either. Coker probably fits the slot in Canales' scheme.

this remains a foolish wish, to try to wish the Bryce haters and the Cam haters into the same group. The micro example you have here on the board shows you they are not the same group. Same group that hated Jimmy Clausen hates Bryce would be the more accurate example.

I asked for the stats last year of his plays 20+ yards. I don't want ratings or video clips. What was the actual statistical outcome when he went 20+ yards last year when he was a "good deep ball passer". As I keep saying, eventually you can't run from that reality with subjective ratings on hypothetical what ifs or cherry picked video.

you forgot to add the fact the Bears had a winning record with Trubisky.

I see the Bryce crew is back to trying to gaslight people into thinking Bryce was a good deep passer last year lol. to that, I would merely ask the Bryce crew to post the stat line for his plays 20+ yard down field last year. It's on the board. It's really bad. Just like this year. Just like his rookie year. Not the PFF gaslighting. We know you can all share the PFF thought.

we saw a washed Dalton be inserted with Frank and Canales.....and the passing attack immediately became more threatening with the same weapons. We know a NFL average QB (which Andy isn't) would automatically make a team more threatening than Bryce. Not sure we need to see it for a 3rd straight season.

Brees was a Pro Bowl QB and went the playoffs with the Chargers. How does that Bryce mimic that career arc?

We cut Teddy because he outed an unfit coaching staff as unfit. checkdown Teddy Bridgewater plays like Brett Favre compared to BY

I mean, reality says he can’t. factually is he is indeed horrible downfield 3 of 13 with an INT. Thats reality. the counter argument that you and ace make….is all what if and excuses and imaginary plays happening that didn’t. and every year we have this convo and at some point a washed Dalton with step on the field and go downfield in a manner not seen from Bryce with the exact weapons

Renfrow for being a role player has been 100% fine. Heck he should have at least 4 TDs. Bryce Young just can’t throw the ball. When he does look Renfrows way and he is open it’s almost always just a bad throw. Renfrow also has been out there setting great picks like the big play to TMac, getting Bryce Young horrible turnovers wiped etc. You could literally already make a highlight real of bad throws to him by Bryce and none of that is pimping Renfrow. It just highlights Bryce fails at basics over and over every week without fail

I don’t have a problem with this. Coaches should listen to their players to an extent. No one was bashing Wilks because Gilmore told him he needed to go erase Pitts when that’s all Atlanta really had. I mean, they don’t need to listen to every player all the time. But when your RB is in a grove our your best defenders speaks….its best to not ignore them