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maybe. but everything is handpicked by him. all the soccer coaches he fired. all the football coaches he fired (minus Ron). GMs. all the front office folks. the plans he makes to build facilities and then not. Tepper quickly parts with all his handpicked people when they don't produce. and it's not like Bryce is some lab built QB that you can sort of go back and convince yourself on and blame everyone else around him for why it doesn't work.

Charlotte FC on 3rd HC Panther on 4th HC. 3rd GM. 5th starting QB entering a season. parted with CMC, Burns, DJ Moore and every big name/star Carolina drafted Tons of shakeup in his front office and corporate staff. The fans will show more patience with Bryce than Tepper based on what we know of Tepper IMO.

David Tepper is not a patient man. He is a results now guy. And Tepper IMO is clearly influenced by the outside world. If Bryce continues to be bad, his team continues to be bad, the outside world continues to rub it in his face and let him know......he is going to make moves. Ego. He has proven that over and over again in just about all aspects of how he does things. I think overall, the collective outside world has longer leash than Tepper uses.

that's not where my head expects things to be.....but realistically, it's going to make Bryce uniquely different than all his peers at #1. Even the "bad" ones. Did we overdraft him? I think so. But that doesn't really matter. The org, fans, media, etc largely is going to acknowledge what he was drafted to be. QB is weird. I think you could get away with drafting a DE #1 overall and he end up being a Charles Johnson caliber DE (slow progression where he sort of comes into his own in year 4) vs a Julius Peppers. Hard to imagine QB being treated as such. I think if Bryce has a future of being "solid"....it likely ends up being w/ another team. His expectations, fair or not, or for more than solid here.

Vinegar or mustard. There is a lot we should know about what type people these guys are.

I'm not arguing against it. I'm just arguing when the season kicks off, they should be carrying a legit C on the roster going in.

let's get way more controversial....ask them about cargo shorts and if it's Pee-can or Puh-khan.

I don't really consider the UDFAs part of the team or plan. If he makes the team? Then sure. They carry such low odds. Hope he does.

your team is your team. All sports is, is an escape from reality and something to emotionally invest in that you have no control over. Trainwrecks are entertaining too.

fug it. The Posse 2.0. We got Monk, now we need our Sanders and Clark. We have always liked nicknames. It's what we do instead of winning.

Sure, but you can spend limited resources and sign a middle of the road vet C to compete or just backup Corbett. I’m talking just someone that we factual know can do the job. Not someone great that cost money I mean, we have the weakest C plan going into the season of any team in the NFL on paper most likely. Coming off a year where the interior OL play prevented the O from even attempting to function on a high % of downs. It just doesn’t have to be that way. I assume/guess Corbett got too much work to do right now to have a legit C on the roster. A legit C with experience probably outplays him early and they want Corbett to learn and grow into the starting gig. Which could happen. But that’s still a plan with plenty to dislike

Bar is pretty much set. Playoffs. Pro Bowl. Individual record or award. Every #1 overall QB has hit at least one of those for the last 20+ years by year 2. Real promise. Bryce has to be better. A lot better.

That’s seems more like a in season after injury mindset. he didn’t play C in college and hasn’t in the NFL. Coming off a major injury. I still think you just sign an actual real life NFL C to put behind him before the season starts. I just don’t get the gamble without a real sensible plan if it doesn’t work in place.

We seem to be going to great effort to convince ourselves…

I'm not factoring cap hit. or probably the very good relationship with our front office given his role here off the field. Ignore the team. Ignore the players. If a team had horrific OL play up the middle last year and the proposed solution is to insert someone at C who has never played it a snap in a NFL or college game. I just think that's a bad sounding plan. I'm not expecting them to solve every problem. I'm just asking they add an actual NFL C to the roster for if their plan doesn't work. Just an average guy. And not do it in season after the plan doesn't work.

they would have at least had a collegiate career playing C. Corbett doesn't even have that. but I don't really care about them not drafting a C. I want them to bring in a cut vet C. It's pointless to of spent all that money at G and not have an actual C. Silly gamble. If the C play is bad the entire middle of the OL is going to be a mess. Again.

but didn't that mean, they were planning on moving him to C....but he never has actually played C in a NFL game.

once we drafted JStew I felt we had to let DWill walk once they paid DWill I thought you had to let JStew walk but that made you a hater. In real time, everyone loved those dudes. They were interreacting with fans and all sorts of stuff. Can't remember the details but I feel they had a little online fanclub thing and were sort of early to the online engagement.

yeah, Sanders just highlights how important OL is....and pretty much supports the narrative that largely if you solve OL issue you solve your run issues. The is no shortage of RBs that can run behind actual good OL play. Sanders was running through huge holes in Philly. And was basically league average once he saw contact back there. I mean, yeah, a CMC or Adrian Peterson is nice. But largely I think teams should just focus on the OL.

what about the 3rd best C for a RB

Bryce’s arm issues in the NFL aren’t just seen deep. Even basic out routes. If Bryce Young isn’t set….he doesn’t really have a NFL caliber arm to do what we have come to expect in today’s NFL IMO from #1 overall caliber QBs I keep saying I think Bryce in a good scenario can eventually be good. And I have been on record since before last kicked off we weren’t doing what we should to help him succeed when people were fanboying over the all star staff, Miles Sanders , etc. So I don't think I am a true Bryce hater. But his tools limit his ceiling.. I just don’t see how we can’t accept that. It’s not his fault but the reality is the situation is he was drafted #1 overall….and it comes with different judgement and criteria vs other QBs IMO.

I don’t know about that….when we drafted him I basically conceded we would largely be playing small ball. That’s just what I have always thought Bryce was going to be. A dink and dunk PG. Playing a version of old Drew Bree’s’ game but maybe not that extreme. To date, I think that’s supported. Bryce might of thrown some deep balls on a stacked Bama roster in college but even then it wasn’t really his thing and his accuracy was bad. He doesn’t have the NFL tools to really challenge downfield as part of his bread and butter in the NFL. He isn’t going to be a chunk yardage. Not sure why anyone would want to be trying that. That’s not playing his strengths. I just feel it’s more bad marriages. And we are doing what we do. Convincing ourselves it isn’t what it is. But I do concede Canales is young and we don’t know his OC. So maybe they will switch it up and not be what we have seen from then. I just think Leggette is a sign that it isn’t the case.

I mean all we got is what we got on him. And you can trace it back to Seattle. Wilson is a downfield thrower. Always a heavy/top air yard QB going downfield. That’s the Canales background and resume to date. I mean, I would think if the goal was to do something new catering to Bryce vs doing what you do….you would’t draft Leggette with your first pick. Basically an Evans/DK deep ball guy and draft some route runner like Ladd to get the ball out quick.

Baker lead the NFL in pass attempts of 20+ air yards. and it’s not hard to see how Canales gets their after all that time in Seattle. Wilson was a chuck it downfield guy. Only thing I don’t get in this Bryce era….is what the heck they keep pairing up. Maybe Canales is so young he totally creates a Bryce O. To date, it looks like a really bad match

It’s just modern day Foxball with a heavy dose of 11 personnel IMO. and I think what really makes it modern day Foxball. is how they pass off it. Which is chunk plays downfield. and Canales #1 pick is the perfect fit for what he did in Tampa. I mean, no WR in the draft probably is a better fit for that brand of ball.