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Yes - another Watson thread

“From what we have been told, the Dolphins generally have been discreet in their comments with outsiders about Deshaun Watson, usually shrugging it off when asked about their interest in the disgruntled Houston Texans quarterback.

But according to a source with direct knowledge, a high-ranking team official has told at least one outsider that the Dolphins expect to be in the mix to acquire Watson if the Texans make him available (which they have not, to this point).”

I will hold off on any excitement until we trade Teddy, assuming that’s even possible 

Trade him to Denver for a bag of chips, just get out of that awful contract

Former Panther, Torrey Smith chimes in on ESPN saying that it makes sense because of who Tepper is, a bold risk taker that made billions doing the same.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/30916887

Classic example of Panthers paying someone for past performance 

44 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Start PJ and say you are evaluating whats on your roster.  Nobody would have thought twice about that seeing how bad teddy was playing

I would have started Grier instead.   PJ would possibly play better than Teddy

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Exchanging medical information is like one step away from completion, so yeah it was that close.

The Panthers weren't Stafford's first choice, and that's all we really know. But even if they were one of the teams he didn't want, he didn't have any leverage to stop a trade. And the Lions only agreed they would try to send him to a place he wanted to go, but only if it was also advantageous to them.

Los Angeles upping their final offer made it work out. If not for that, he'd likely be on his way here now.

Fair enough. In retrospect, I am glad it didn’t work out. Why would we want a QB who didn’t want to join us in the first place?

Maybe not that close

“What’s accurate is — and this is an incredible thing by [the Lions] — I asked to go to a team that was ready to win a championship,” Stafford said. “And, you know, there were a few teams on that list. There were a few teams that were not on that list. And they were respectful of that and understood completely. I had thoughts and reasons for each one of them.”

4 hours ago, bigdog10 said:

The sport is gradually making its way towards the NBA and that should terrify the owners. 

That’s why the NBA is doing much better than the NFL

5 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I'm a little torn. I support a player asking for help and even demanding it but 'personal control' is out of thr question for me. If the team is that bad at personal management just go somewhere else. 

I also don't have a problem with the new and current balance where each side has some actions they can take in thr process. Franchise tag can work but it can also blow up in a team's face if they are stupid about the situation. I also like players having a trade clause or ability to sit to counter the teams ability to break a contract at any time. 

For me it is all about balance.

Fair point, but I feel like the balance has been skewed against the players for so long it may take a bit of a pendulum swing the other way to eventually achieve the happy medium.

With an increasing number of players forcing their way out of teams or demanding more input in personnel decisions, a real power shift seems to be happening that echoes what happened in NBA.  

I personally don't see it as a bad thing. 

Most NFL GMs are incompetent and get too much credit for the work they do to manage personnel.  Franchise QBs like Deshaun Watson, Russell Wilson should have more input into head coaching and personnel hires because they've staked their long term future with the team.  I think it will lead to more exciting trades and potentially faster rebuilds.

Houston is going to be the worst team in the league for years to come

hard pass

Melo is well on track to be the NBA rookie of the year.  Here is where he currently stands

He currently leads all NBA rookies for total points, rebounds, assists, steals, double-doubles, triple-doubles and player efficiency rating (source: ESPN).

This says more about poor scouting and evaluation than about reaching.  If you believe your evaluation is correct and that player will not be available at your draft position, then it's not reaching.  

It's only reaching if they suck or they would have dropped anyway

First Things First (@FTFonFS1) Tweeted:
"The Eagles can probably get a single 2nd round pick for Carson Wentz. If someone offers them a 1st, they need to say yes & hang up. The idea that they are getting what you got for Jalen Ramsey for Carson Wentz is lunacy & will never happen." — @getnickwright https://t.co/4XWfn6gd67

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not absolutely convinced that Lance is worth the number eight.

I've seen some fans projecting an image of the next Cam Newton on to him that I don't think is really there.

The market dictates what he's worth.  There's going to be a feeding frenzy on QBs in this draft and sometimes you just need to overpay to get your man.  He is #2 on my list after Lawrence, but it all depends on what Rhule and Fit think. 

Considering he never had elite QBs throwing to him most of his career should be taken into account.  He should be a fist ballot HOF-er

Anyone that thinks Lance will be there at #8 is delusional.  He has the most upside of any QB outside of Lawrence.  We'll need to at least trade up to #5.  

Not for Wilson

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yes you can. There are multiple examples of this in the NFL. The problem is that Seattle has struggled building an OL for years. It isn't some new problem.

This is the same struggle Cam had and he was on a very team friendly deal. The issue isn't money, the issue is that the Seahawks don't make OL a priority the same way we never do. That isn't a recipe for success.

So then if they didn’t draft a WR, that would be his problem, or having a defense that can stop anyone. He’s just a whiny little bitch. This has nothing to do with Cam, we’re talking about the situation in Seattle. 

So Russell wants a quality line but wouldn't take a team friendly deal.  You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Those guys are terrible anyway.

It may seem like Teddy Bridgewater’s days in Carolina are numbered but Wentz is not the quarterback to bring into the fold. He has regressed over the last couple of years to the point where he was benched for rookie Jalen Hurts. Trading for a guy that is prone to turning the ball over has an absurd contract, and got benched for a rookie is exactly the type of quarterback Carolina needs to stay far away from regardless of what the Eagles want in return.

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/panthers-should-avoid-getting-involved-in-carson-wentz-trade-talks

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rapoport confirmed that both the Bears and the Colts have been in talks about Wentz and continue to be.

One wild scenario that's emerging  involves Nick foles being traded back to the Eagles as part of the compensation package for Wentz.

How ironic! Nick Foles was the superbowl MVP and was the main reason for their success in the playoffs. Wentz has never lived up to the hype since then.