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Our hat trick hero friend against Boston Max Domi wins it in OT for Toronto

Ghostbear has been our best skater through 2 games so far IMO

I can throw crap on the wall and see if it sticks also. I'll say Abdul Carter is drafted by the Panthers at 8. Doesn't mean it's going to happen...

Arizona state was definitely more creative getting a mismatch on skattebo in the passing game. Honestly, I thought that was the most impressive thing about skattebo that game (that and his ability to stay up after first contact). I still don't think Texas' defense was particularly great and was a bit overrated. They managed to avoid the better offensive teams (at least passing ones) in the SEC. But yeah, I still wouldn't draft a running back very high unless they are a freak athlete like Barkley or elite at running and receiving the ball like CMC

That's the game you're going to go by when Penn State has an elite front 7 vs. a much worse Boise State oline...Teams were just not able to run against Penn State this year Not saying Jeanty is the greatest thing, but the talent disparity between those two teams was probably the biggest in the CFP behind maybe Penn State vs SMU.

If we are looking for yac ability, then go for somebody like Jaylin Noel outta Iowa State in the 2nd. He gives me zay flower vibes and has produced throughout college. Won't argue about lack of vision. Unfortunately fitterer was a dumb ass and left this team void if talent when he got fired.

The way they looked pre draft, yes. Some are hits, some are not. But yes, they all displayed similar talent levels.

I swear if I see one more idiot that posts something like this and doesn't check what year I joined this forum... He literally averaged less than 3.5 ypc the year I created this profile and had some really bad fumbles that cost us games. Yet... this organization thought it was a better idea to keep giving him the rock than give CMC more touches his rookie year. Pretty sure everyone on this forum with half a brain cell knew he was washed... Sorry, everyone except you. You said we need (what I presume to be) an elite TE if you want us taking Warren at eight to address "Bryce's glaring needs". We just invested about 150 million in the oline and he had one of the best olines last year. It isn't really realistic we keep spending every dollar we have and every high draft pick we have on offense while our defense continues to set records for futility. If we trade down and take Warren in the 20s, I can live with it. Using a top 8 pick on a guy I have a late 1st round grade on while doubly not drafting at a position of need is the kind of crap I expect our front office to do sadly. And you say Kelce, Olsen, and Witten aren't getting open on athleticism yet fail to mention that all 3 of them are/were elite route runners t. Warren's route running is not great (as of right now) and is something he is going to have to work a ton on. Those 3 dudes also got drafted nowhere near #8, which really argues my point of you can find good tight ends in later rounds. This draft is very deep at tight end. At the end of the day, I think Warren is closer in current ability to tight ends along the line of Kincaid, LaPorta, Freiermuth, Hunter Henry, etc. than he is Bowers, Pitts (up this high because of freakish athleticism), and Tony Gonzalez. Those 3 justifiably should have been top 10 picks in the draft.

I want us to come out with the same energy in the first period as game 1. We completely outmatched them that period and the Devils may have had 1 scoring chance the entire period

At some point, we need to stop saying "if only we had X player for Bryce Young". We drafted him number 1 overall - he shouldn't need a top 10 player at every position on offense. If he does, then he isn't the guy And if we are convinced for some reason we do need a tight end for Bryce, I want one that can stretch the field vertically down the seam. That is definitely not Warren

Loveland's draft stock got hurt by the terrible QB room for Michigan last year. He looked really good with a QB that knew how to throw the ball forward the previous season.

Most of Taylor, Arroyo, Ferguson, and Helm are all TEs that should be there in the 3rd/4th that can be solid NFLers IMO. Sure, they aren't as good as Warren/Loveland and most of them are subpar run blockers, but I would much rather have our top pick for defense (whoever we feel that is) over a TE. If Bowers was in this draft, I would have been all over it at 8. There just aren't many TE prospects like Bowers that warrant being picked in the top 10 - last one I can think of is Tony Gonzalez (Kyle Pitts managed to get there because of his freakish athleticism)

I don't care about offensive production for a team that literally only threw to him and the running back. I care about what I see on film: Dude cannot separate on his own against talented LBs/S and had to be schemed open; his route running is below average; while pretty athletic, he doesn't have elite athleticism or speed; his blocking form has quite a few red flags (dude should be a dominant run blocker for his size). He was talented enough to get open in college against a slower LB/S; that won't be the case in the NFL. Not to mention, the dude pretty much was nonexistent until this year for Penn St. If I am drafting a TE in the top 10, choosing a 5th year senior that didn't do anything until his last season should be pretty alarming. Not saying he is going to be a bad player - I think he will be a solid short/intermediate possession TE in the NFL. I just don't understand the logic of taking him top 10

Yeah, it's weird all of the love Tyler Warren is getting. Dude is nowhere near as talented as Bowers, Pitts, or Hockenson were in college. Nothing on his tapes screams "wow". He is a late 1st round talent at best and we would be stupid to draft him at 8 Edit: Not to mention this draft class is deep at TE. Honestly, I don't see much separating Warren from Loveland

As good as stank, chatty, and hall were, I thought ghostbear had a hell of a game also. Truly dominant 1st 2 periods. Let off the pedal a bit in the 3rd, but still an all around good showing defensively