UnluckyforSome

So, I wonder when Carr's deal is up in NO?

There has to be a player that generates the interest and justifies such a trade. Then the question is if they are so good, why shouldn't we pick them? The college season is still early. Someone might emerge. Right now it's all muddled.

I think you misunderstand my opinion of Young, and the franchise as a whole. There is nothing salvageable about this and it should've been torn down to floorboards and studs, when this rebuild was undertaken 4 coaches ago. The team shows the results of all those different philosophies and opinions and hands. There is no identity, no foundations, it's a collection of players, many of them would not be in the league other than the opportunity we have presented. Bring on the next set to turn us into a winner again. Spin the wheel of misfortune, Tepper. But all said, you have some very fine points.

I think where we might be differing on this is trying to wrangle a few wins here and there. There is no good or better outcome on this season. To your point, there is no reason to play Bryce. We know what we have with him. There's no reason to play Dalton. He is not the answer. I don't know, put in the udfa they had out there in preseason. It's a no-win scenario no matter how you look at it, but someone has to go out there and slog it out. Only 15 more to go!

Sure there is. Top pick in the draft. I think any hope for wins is a bit much either way.

There is not really any point in playing Dalton. He isn't the future, and while he might make them a little more competitive, he isn't capable of turning this trainwreck around.

Yes, but it will take a sea change to make that happen. While Tepper is certainly an overwhelming wrong here, he is not the only thing off with the franchise.

I know it looks grim, but there will be 1 game on that schedule that the opponent is missing a key player, or they just didn't prepare enough, or the ball bounces the wrong way. Make no mistake, we are not better than any other team in the league.

I predicted 1 win. There's no panic here. He showed all last season he can't play at this level.

Well, you know, with the way Bryce is able to pass the ball and distribute it around, we won't need superstar receivers.

In the Superbowl era, the record for the least amount of touchdowns in a season is 11 by the 1977 Bucs. That was in a 14 game season. This Panthers team can break that record, even with the 17 games. It is that bad.

Well. They won 2 last year. I have them winning 1 this year. Chances are good they will improve on that at some point in the future.

Just End The Season

He threw a drink on a fan, and maybe got a sternly worded letter from the league office and a slap on the wrist.

The problem with getting a ransom of picks for the top spot is there has to be a player perceived to be worth that haul. There are no sparkling names out there for qb at this time. Sure, it could change between now and then, but there isn't a game changer out there as of now.

The Rams-Lions game last night was a good watch. Panthers aren't worth watching. I don't find them funny. It's a miserable experience and has been that way for a good while now. I don't think I watched an entire Panthers game last season, and I was just fine.

I recognize the fan in you doesn't want Young to be a failure. Quit extending him another 2 or 3 games to show something. He hasn't shown anything in a season+. Nothing, nada, nul, nunca.

We may not have to wait even that long for the beatdown. Bengals are more than capable of running up the score.

Chiefs coming up in a few weeks..

Only reasons for him to continue coaching would be to surpass Shula's record for wins and prove that he didn't need Brady. Neither would happen here.

So here's a good what if? What if he goes 2-15, or 1-16, or 0-17 this year? Tough sell on a coach with that kind of record. We would be closer to being the NFC Browns then.

There aren't any strengths to this team. Worst teams in the league are the worst because there are no strengths. It could be even worse though, we could've won the Watson bidding war, so there is a bright spot.

He has no trade value.

The 1977 Bucs have the record with fewest touchdowns on the season in the Superbowl era, with 11 scored. This team could challenge that record.

If you love the sport it is very possible to follow games and enjoy watching and attending. Doesn't mean you have to be emotional invested in this garbage franchise.