Jared Patterson

Worst case scenario

I have been pretty impressed so far and as you can tell by my other comments I am very hard to please lol.

Yep. Agreed.

Exactly, but he threw a ton of picks his sophomore year and has improved that each year and Im not really talking about picks. Im talking about his reads and missing open receivers. Also, adjusting to an NFL system will be somewhat of a struggle for him early.

Im starting to like Corral. Dude has some real potential if he fixes his decision making.

Michael Robinson... "Baker Mayfield is not a top 64 QB in the NFL." Keep banking on Baker being the answer. We will see who is right at the end of the day. The Browns line or Baker Mayfield.

Okay I guess they weren't the "best" oline but top 5. Baker was the weakest link on that entire team.

There are more articles as well. The starting oline played over half the season and their back ups are/were above average. Overall a very good to great oline. Coach and front office clearly didn't think it was the lines fault...

I was about to say how did Corral do in your opinion? I just cant really tell. Would be nice if he could be the future and we don't have to draft one again next year, or god forbid another retread.

Yep 100%

Sam and Baker both looked awful again today....

Because I don't need to read articles. I know. And I listed plenty of the analysts. Michael Robinson even said he is not a top 64 QB.... Look at what Steve has said about Baker in the past lol. And I am mocking the "QB competition" too. Its hilarious and embarrassing that these two buffoons are battling it out.

Its so weird. Why in the world is he even on the team?

What is Rhule's creepy fetish with Eflein? Not only is he the worst Lineman in the league.... He was cut by the old Jets and Bengals line and literally would not be in the league if it was for us. Him and Rhule seriously have to have something up. Gave the bum a 3 year deal and re-structered him

You're right Baker is an absolute stud and going to win us a championship this year smh..... Why did Rob Ninconvich, Ryan Clark, Jake Delhome, Keyshon Johnson, Colin Cowherd, Marcus Spears, Bucky Brooks and Steve Smith (at first) all say Darnold is better and should win the job? I disagree with most media members, but they are very close in talent/skills/mental capacity. Probably QB 32, 31 in the league. Why did the Browns go after a sexual predator out of desperation to get rid of the guy? Why did they have to pay to get rid of him? Why were we the only team in the entire league interested? Why did the Falcons choose to sign Mariota over him? LOL BUDDY and don't call me uneducated, you don't know me. Maybe I am way more connected than you think

No its not.

I was against Teddy, Sam and now Baker and know I will be right. People are just the Websters definition of Insane and trying to talk theirselves into another retread for what the fifth time? Its laughable.

Not hard to find Mr. Scot, look up the Baker immaturity articles its right in there.

Look it up.... He called out his Oline multiple times and was considered immature.

LOL guess we can watch and see. No one wanted Baker in the entire NFL besides us and had to pay to get rid of him. I know you guys are trying your best to talk yourselves into Baker like I am sure you did for Sam last year. Most NFL analyst believe Sam will win the job. They are both awful and lol what QB did he beat and the Steelers were decimated. I would've taken the Browns Oline over any oline in the league outside maybe Rams and Lions.

Agreed. Im not as much mad at us trading for Baker personally, its the giving Matt Rhule yet another chance and I don't want us to win a few more games and him use that as an excuse to stick around and do the same crap next year. Either way Baker and Sam are FA next year.

Overall, I just think there is a ceiling with Baker. I do believe he is an upgrade from Darnold; however, I don't see him as a guy that can ever lead us to a super bowl, so I just don't see the point of making the trade. Im not a Matt Rhule fan and I think its allowing him his what 5th chance at a QB? I am more frustrated with that than I am strictly Baker. Maybe I will be wrong and he can lead us to the ship, but I don't want to win a few more games to hurt our draft stock and keep Rhule around. I am thinking more long term.

Good conversation. May get heated at times, but I like hearing and accepting people with different perspectives. Nothing I say is personal I love good sports debates. Ready for the season!

I think its a fortune. Those draft picks can be starters if you know what you're doing and we were negotiating against ourselves. No question we got fleeced.

Okay thank you, so we agree we are the only team to stoop to that level out of desperation. That was all I was trying to say. Probably not a good sign.... but we didn't pay too much although drafting a qb w a third round (if it doesn't work out) pick and giving up a 5th for someone that we know won't be apart of the future is a bigger deal than people think.