frankw

I'm with you on building from the inside out and if we are making reasonable attempts to do that without overpaying then that's all I can ask for the time being until we see results. But it always makes me laugh to log on here and see some people mocking others for being apprehensive as if this org hasn't had the worst win % in professional sports. Until proven otherwise the onus is on Morgan and the rest of the front office to show they actually know how to build a winning roster.

Yeah they're smoking that good poo.

15-20 million a year for a safety with our needs across the entire defense? Well that's an interesting path.

Hopium is a hell of a drug in March

Well we have to be fair with ourselves here we turned things around when our season was over. We were thrilled to see it considering how horrendously bad we had been at one point. But now we need to see it when the postseason is still at stake. Obviously we were successful and myself like many others wanted us to invest in the interior OL. That said we did realistically pay through the nose to get it done. To the detriment of our historically bad defense. We're also hoping that we take a few steps forward this season offensively. I certainly would like to see that come to fruition. I think Canales is the right coach. It just all hinges on Morgan. He needs a stellar offseason. Fingers crossed.

He's a first time head coach complimenting a peer that has been in the basement for a long time now. That's really all I take from it. Look I'm a Panthers and Hornets fan through and through and will remain that as long as the teams reside here but let's be realistic. No one is legitimately trying to copy anything with this franchise currently. Hopefully that can be subject to change down the road. We'll have to see.

Absolutely kick the tires and see where it goes.

Are you ever not seeking enemies here?

I didn't know he was from SC. It sounds like he's just being polite. And I'm sure he also sees similarities between himself and Canales too. But investing in the OL intelligently certainly isn't something new. As far as the Bears go however there is no love whatsoever. I wish them only pain.

The position is a need in the mid rounds and if there is a guy like this that plays with an edge and some tenacity then we should pull the trigger.

He was 10th in the league in targets at 32 years old and the Jets won 5 games. I'm not saying he's not talented it's just at this point in his career it's simply not a winning formula to build a passing offense around him. Those days are gone. For a contending team that wants to add another complimentary piece to an already formidable offense on a low end contract he could see interest. But no team is going to be vying for his services to make him the focal point. Which is what he was with the Jets to achieve those numbers you mentioned.

Well when you're right you're right. He was also pounding the table for us to draft DJ Johnson.

When the Raiders and Jets don't even want you anymore you're toast. Hope he's been saving.

He can fug right off somewhere else for that kind of money.

I hadn't heard this but I appreciate the info. I could not agree more I despise that MFer. But he is one of the better offensive minds in league history so I will listen to what he has to say if he is truthfully assessing our situation. And yes he is correct.

Yeah our FO has absolutely no poker face when it comes to the draft. This should be plainly obvious to anyone paying attention. But all that aside as for the topic at hand if we pick Warren I think he will be a stud for us.

I think it depends on where the money is going. Obviously our secondary needs work but the Dline should be the key focal point and it would be unrealistic to expect it to get better overnight with rookies. In general nothing is being "fixed" in a single offseason but we can and should use free agency strategically. But we also cannot overpay from the jump like we did last offseason. That will be a recipe for another mess. Long time fans know how these stories go.

I agree it's time to reset the RB room outside of Hubbard. I also imagine the decision makers have seen other teams around the league getting high quality production out of mid round and undrafted RB's. Example the Buccaneers with 4th round pick Bucky Irving. All I can do is hope Dan Morgan learned a very tough lesson in his first year.

The right answer.

It's cool he was in involved in the Mahomes pick and I am optimistic about hiring him but that honestly doesn't even move the needle for me. Show me something with this draft and then we'll go from there.

At this juncture we have hope for the future but that's it. Absolutely no reason to even consider something like this right now. And it should also be pointed out the entire reason for trading up for a 22 year old QB is to get maximum value out of their rookie deal. We've already invested upwards of $150 million in the oline. Are there people out there that actually think we can afford to toss out a 100 million dollar contract and still somehow field a competitive team with a black hole on the defensive side of the ball a unit btw that just gave up the single season most points in league history? I try to give everyone here a little grace but threads like this just make me grumpy. Stupid.

I have no idea what kind of career he will carve out but we've spent a ton of money on the oline recently and as long as we continue to invest wisely there we should be able to plug in a mid round RB and keep it pushing.

We are a couple tiers below poverty. Don't even belong in the NBA. At this point I feel sorry for whomever will end up being drafted by this franchise.

I've changed my stance somewhat. 6'6 257. He's a Monstar. It would immediately give us a jolt of life especially in the redzone. If he's there at 8 you take him. That defense though... we've got our work cut out for us. It won't be solved in a single offseason though regardless.