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I agreed on drafting a QB is a gamble regardless of a good draft class or not. I agreed on you have to keep trying to get your QB. I was just telling you the possible reason why people want the Panthers to pass on a QB in the first round this year. Its Morgan/Canales that will get to decide their fate. If they fall for one, draft him. If they don't, then don't. Don't just draft one because you need one. No one can say for sure whether ward, sanders, or any other QB in this draft will be a franchise QB. What if we take one and he doesn't work out again. How far back would that set us? I don't think we should be scared to take one and I don't think we should just say right now to focus on 2026 for QB. Go through the routine/norm of the off-season. Scout and do our research and make the best decision for the team moving forward. If they think that is a QB first round, fine.

People aren't saying no to drafting a QB in the first round without reason. Every team you mentioned , Texans/Commanders/Patriots, all got their QB of the future in a "loaded" draft for the QB position. This draft does not have that. I agree that regardless of the thoughts related to how good or great this draft (or any draft is), drafting a player is still a gamble. In a "loaded" draft for the QB position we drafted a dud. I agree that we have to keep attempting to get the guy. But to say F it and draft one in the first round every year isn't ideal. Because you have to put a team around that rookie. The Bryce trade up not only hurt us by him not being the guy, but we traded a good player and assets that could've been used to help build a roster. So we are back to having to rebuild the roster as well as finding the franchise QB. Tough task. Don't think its cut and dry just draft a QB in first round until you get him. I agree that you do have to find one. I just don't think its easy as find the guy. Cause now not only do you have to find the guy, you have to find the guy that can do it without help. Which is even more of a diamond in the rough.

Lol alright, you have fun with that. Though I am also intrigued as to how you pull that off and don’t end up fired haha so I can’t be mad. I’ll be waiting for an answer even if i don’t expect a good one.

So we should stop the development of all of our young players and say hey guys you’ve played well enough to shelf it until next year and tank this season for a draft that doesn’t even have a generational talent at the top for us to grab. players: hell yeah coach, you got it

You’re kind of hinting at it though. And im saying “kind of” to be nice lol

I think its insane that people think there are teams worse than us. I get that people are looking at records, but that doesn’t really tell us our situation. We should definitely only have one win. We lucked into our last two wins. The other team had to hand the game over to us multiple times for us to win. No doubt we are still #1… in being bad

You already know the answer to this. There isn’t one. There’s nothing you can tell coaches or players to talk them into this. Unless you can somehow promise every player on the team that this season stats don’t count, the film on this year will be deleted, and all players will get signed to player-friendly (not team-friendly basically) long term deals. Then you go up to tepper and promise 3 super bowls after the jay-z 7 years are up. players are playing for the money left on contracts and the contract coming. Coaches are more or less doing the same. And this isn’t even adding in pride and/or egos. i get you’re just trying to make the other guy look dumb. But let’s end this lol the idea is dumb and isn’t happening. Only fans believe in tanking… and that’s okay. Root away for the tank. Whatever makes you happy.

Our roster doesn't currently have a non-struggling QB. Are you saying starting Bryce is our way of tanking? Regardless, no team "tanks". I think what you may be referring to is the term "rebuild". Teams ship off top players on big contracts when they realize they have no choice but to rebuild. They grab picks and play the young talent to help develop/see what they have prior to the off-season. No team tanks. Just too much at stake for that. Players fighting for contracts, coaches fighting for jobs (current & future), and both coaches/players have to put good on tape. No matter where you pick, you can pick a bust. Is it easier to pick a stud if you're picking #1 overall, sure. But no pick in the draft is guaranteed.

The football gods are in our favor. No other reason why we won this week and last.

Lineman went up to jones and said “it was a pleasure working with ya”

Ga-oh-no

Happy for JT

Bryce, go to sleep. Big game tomorrow

I think his dm’s are open

Yeah and for those saying its a culture move... what culture do we currently have that we are worried about messing up. Plus if chuba is the make or break for our culture... regardless, bad move. I would have preferred to let chuba walk, reduce sanders snaps to 0 since we couldn't showcase his no talent enough for a trade, and play chuba/brooks/Dillon Johnson (on our practice squad), see what we have with the young guys, and make a decision in the offseason.

Literally where i am at with this. I mean its hard to hate chuba. But this was a bad business move.

100%

Well Dallas basically said fug RB after we drafted brooks. Not sure if they are a good example. They could've used a late round pick. Some of those late round RBs are playing pretty good. They just went all in on the ghosts of elliott and cook for some reason.

That's like saying Rhule drafted a football player, not a long snapper (joke). Position does have to play a role in this. I just don't think its a move we should have made. Is it a culture move? Sure I'll agree on that. Was it the right move? I guess we will have to watch it play out and see.

We are trying to create a winning culture by doing things that winning teams don't do? I am not mad at the extension. It's just not the move I would have made.

If you look at teams that do it right, you build the OL. Most average RBs look above average behind top OLs. You build and invest in the OL. Good teams only pay/invest high assets into the RB position when they have the luxury to do so. You definitely don't do it in the early stages of the rebuild due to the NFL life expectancy of a RB. You won't have a young brooks let alone a young chuba once we are out of the rebuild.

I don't think I would've minded maybe a 2 year extension vs. the 4 year they gave him. I get it, realistically, you don't expect brooks to come in and explode on the scene. You also didn't draft brooks to be a bell-cow kind of back. I think a 2 year extension to build brooks into the lead back while also drafting chuba's replacement either 2025 or 2026 and work him in. Brooks was a sanders replacement and not a chuba replacement that much is evident. Personally, I would have let him walk and brought in a bigger back via draft. Personally I don't like chuba and brooks being double trouble. I would prefer to pair either one with a bigger RB.

A few things i loved from this video: XL hype on JT long gain Chuba giving pre-game speech JT telling the OL they deserve this win before the final drive

I thought we only had 1 pick in the 2nd (via Rams), bears has our original pick