micnificent28

Thats our problem now why the offense is behind the defense. You have used so many first and seconds on brown horn shaq burns Gross matos Henderson was a first chinn. look at offense...

I Agree... some guy on the first page had him listed with Dwayne Jarrett colbert TMJ and the host of other panther wr 2nd round bust. I don't Think Samuel was that... He consistently got separation. Despite the fact he has never played with a good qb. I would like to see him go to say the eagles or rams somewhere he just has 2 run.

I mean... The guy has what 1-2 years production he leaving early and jusr transfered to FSU this year... if he runs 4.5 i could see it..

I can't Agree with the concensus huddle Group think that all second round wrs suck so dont draft 1. Thats the same logic of all ohio state qbs suck until C.J Stroud... or all FSU defensive ends are Everett Brown until.. Brian Burns... The fact is all draft classes are not created equal. Some guys get pushed up or down depending on how much a team needs and how deep the class is. Hell Davonte Adams when in the second round behind Benjamin and OBJ and i think cooks... Kennan Allen went in the second round looks like a Hall of famer.. Don't base every guy who is in the second round as all the same guy. each prospect should be looked at on a individual basis.

I don't Think Samuel was a bust.. he was as advertised. second rounder= starter.

That why i said at the end of the first could be gone by second. But we have a long way to go til the draft.

Christian watson off the top of my head

I would blame the scouting department. Just because they get it wrong doesnt mean you cant get it right. For ever TMJ or mingo whoever there is DK metcalf and pua Necua and tank Dell other guys who do hit.

I mean doesnt mean It can't... We spent 2nd and 3rd on pass rushers and tackles and such doesnt mean you stop swinging?

Yes its all doom and gloom and missing out on generational talents like Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison(baby randy moss)jr sucks. But only the back end this is a very good Draft class. 2 guys who could be there in the second round at the top i really like or if we trade up at the end of the first. I haven't gotten to look at everyone but I always start with my favorite team Florida State. and Man we got 2 good ones Which is rare at FSU. Keon Coleman a tranfer from Michigan State has been unreal. 3 touchdown catches day 1 in first game Vs sec power LSU.. guy is 6'4 and Is great after the catch to the point he returns punts which is rare for wr. I mean this was last week this guy is ridiculous might not be there in the second round. On the other end.. I know this is going to scare panthers fans but think Kelvin Benjamin but faster. Johnny Wilson is Batman or robin to coleman. At 6'7 hes taller than Benjamin and doesnt seem to lack speed. Wilson needs to work on consistency but his talent isnt to be underestimated. These 2 guys basically take turns mossing smaller DBs... Want to know why FSU is undefeated? these 2 guys(and qb travis) While I hate not having a first the future is bright...

Nobody is saying Burns is perfect. Hes not a 30 mil guy but only because hes not a complete player. He isnt strong vs the run but as a pass rusher hes atleast top 15.

every throw they threw was 40 yards down the field?

bro they were getting rid of the ball like rapid pace. Tua doesn't take many sacks. This bag on burns any game he doesnt get a sack is getting old.

bro... the bears currently own the number 1 and 2 pick and they already have a decentish qb... the future looks as bright as ever.

the same situation.

The wine and cheese army that is Raleigh would indeed not

and then what? they can play in front of a crowd of 500 and still suck?

So we have been linked to him a lot and ideally we would probably go bust for bust like TMJ maybe Chinn. But on a they want pure drsfr capital base whats he worth? I would say no more than a 4 at this point.

this is a stretch. None of our corners are pure zone guys or 6'4 like Richard sherman. we dont have a huge punishing ss like cam and I know you said Chinn, But I don't think the GM controls where a player plays on a team. He shops for the ingredients coaches decide what goes in the pot so to speak. As for the vet Coach, I think tepper was more at fault for that after the Rhule failure. seems natural to go with a proven veteran guy after trying the young college generational thing.

I'm thinking it because everybody is questioning Bryce and he is looking a little iffy... If another young former 1st overall pick suddenly became available I'm sure people would draw a parallel especially since they are similar in size. With Mr. in on every deal im sure its poped in his mind as well. valid discussion.

welp this went over peoples head who clearly didnt read" hypothetical and me saying I'm not saying we should.

Everyone and his roomate says its rumored he frank liked bigger qbs. It was said that tepper and Fitter pushed for bryce they haf eyed him the last 2 years and talked frank into. like i said in the post this is pure hypothetical i know how extremely unrealistic it would to trade the number 1 pick after 4 games but the question would be brought up. Based on pure talent.. i dont think its a bad trade

obviously u didnt read the post where i clearly said this was a hypothetical.

Flutie was ages ago and a different kind of player. Idk kyler had done all right looking at his stats not including his rushing

Hes not a bust. He made the pro bowl. Hes partly the reason people said it was okay to draft bryce because he kyler had success at that size. busts dont get rewarded with this kind of money