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I'm thinking it because everybody is questioning Bryce and he is looking a little iffy... If another young former 1st overall pick suddenly became available I'm sure people would draw a parallel especially since they are similar in size. With Mr. in on every deal im sure its poped in his mind as well. valid discussion.
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Everyone and his roomate says its rumored he frank liked bigger qbs. It was said that tepper and Fitter pushed for bryce they haf eyed him the last 2 years and talked frank into. like i said in the post this is pure hypothetical i know how extremely unrealistic it would to trade the number 1 pick after 4 games but the question would be brought up. Based on pure talent.. i dont think its a bad trade
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This isnt a i think we should do this post or would I really want 2. Its more a hypothetical. I don't think Frank really likes Bryce. So I do think this situation at the least will cross chater somewhere in a alley or hallway.
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Bryce could be a future cautionary tale...
micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Bryce could be a future cautionary tale...
micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
exactly the point of my post. -
Bryce could be a future cautionary tale...
micnificent28 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I have never seen any quest bradys arm really. his arm was definitely good enough to make all the throws. -
I'm not throwing in the towel at all its way 2 early and there are signs of life.. A lot of Bryce struggles could all be on the lack of talent or frank himself play calling not taking the trainning wheels off. But a lot of Bryces struggles are also his own lack of ability. YOU DON'T TAKE A GUY NUMBER 1 WITHOUT ELITE PHYSICAL TRAITS. That's never happened before. Oh he's an "elite processor". Like wtf is that... I can't quantify that. I can't bring that to my coordinator and say oh his processoring will develop openings here or there. Event best undersized prospects had elite physical traits. Kyler had the speed to run away from the rush and nobody questioned his arm strength to attack every aspect of the field. Bryce can't make all the throws.. he can't flick his wrist and hit a corner route like say Richardson. Sorry he just can't. He needs time to access whatever arm strength he has. Well good luck with that when your guard giving up 28 pressures on the year when the worst guy has only given up 14. Yes Bryce is being let down by his supporting cast but a lot of his struggles a number 1 pick would have to make up for with their own ability. Especially if they are an "elite Processor". Brady made eldleman and undersized white guys a thing. Being an extention of the coach and elite mind is great but what does it matter if you dont have the physical tools to capitalize on whats going on on what you see? What good is it to have luke kuechly mind and 5.0 speed in the 40? Like you can see whats happening but can't get there to make a play because you just dont have the gifts. We see this all the time with draft prospects like clelin ferrell the huddle wanted a few years back who went number 4(thank god). guys who have the numbers good football players and smart have all the stats hidden behind talented players beside them who make them look good. But put on a island without that talent around them they are just JAGs. Draft traits not just numbers or you could end up with literally just coaches on the field. It's early but Bryce could become just an expensive game Manager. He's not going to throw picks and lose you the game but he doesn't have the elite traits to uplift and make plays for those around him. Which is why you take the guy who runs the 4.4 in the 40 who had unseen athleticism and the size of a Linebacker unheard combine numbers. Your "elite processor" mental abilities are tied to your confidence and emotional state. I promise you right now bryce is questioning can he play at this level second guessing his decisions trying to make a play which can mitigate all that "elite processoring" we were sold on. Guys like Stroud and Richardson are being validated and gaining confidence by their abilities and seeing yeah I can do this. which buys them time to develop the "elite processor" or good enough to read defenses with their physical ability. End rant.
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where is zod.... the huddle is weird right now
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he has never been that good. hes a product of that eagle's system. with hurts as a option and one of the best offensive lines in the league even Swift looks all world and the lions cut him.
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Granted he isn't a world beater I get it. This wont solve all our problems. But it seems to sense last year even early this year.. Good things happen when he gets the ball. it may only be 5-6 yards but he doesnt seem to be losing yards ever when he touches it. Those 4th and 1 miles up the gut plays???? why not Shenault? he plays with power and a mean streak when he runs good energy.. Instead we manufacturing touches to TMJ who had what like 7-8 targets? Screens to marshall? why aren't those going to Shenault?
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Has Young shown flashes of being a #1 pick?
micnificent28 replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nope. and it has opened him up to be criticized mote about his size faults. Lacks elite arm talent. Lacks size which leads to him being obliterated everytime he takes a sack and that leads to fumbles. I don't believe in drafting players in the first round without quantifiable first round traits. Like arm strength.. elite athleticism so on. oh hes an elite processor... like how do i show that or bank on that? -
Is this fair to debate? I'm not seeing a significant difference in their ability to adjust and take advantage of defenses. Same lack of short yardage efficiency.
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well lets dive into it. currently we aren't paying anyone really. moton is taking up the most cap. half of what hes costing would go back into burns and with cap increase why cant you afford him if hes one of your few spending points? Cap space isnt really a issue tight now. you can still spend on players and build around. we dont have any significant players under contract we cant save and move stuff around on.
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Warein the perfect position to pay anyone because we dont have any star or qb under contract long term. We are in the bottom of the league as far as talent so paying burns wouldnt stop you from having additional cap for whatever else you were planning on doing. Cap isnt really a issue right now.
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Pass rushers who are elite demand top dollar. If a guy gets double digit sacks every year i think thats the bar for elite? that commands top dollar does it not?
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I'm not disagreeing with your logic. I'm saying the 30 million isn't something we cant afford. My argument is we dont have a lot of money tied up anywhere. paying burns would be easy right now because we dont have any superstars or pro bowlers. we dont have 500 million tied up in a qb like say the Bengals or chiefs. The cap is also rising significantly so 30 million today would look like a deal tomorrow. and i doubt burns commands what bosa did maybe 25-28 mil.
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exactly...
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We arent paying currently. youngs nexr contract is years away if he is successful. This team has planned for years to sign burns so cap for that isnt the issue. Brown has been good this year but is he a pro bowler more valuable than burns? idk. and even his contract shouldn't be to bad. Brown doesn't have the stats to command top dt money. If you want draft capital now thats a different conversation. but cap shouldnt stop you from signing burns when you have no one under significant contracts. I mean look at the saints..
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This team wasn't in on tight ends it seems. we didnt even look their way before we traded they wanted to take another guard in the second. and then in the 3rd they passed on Washington for DJ Johnson who isnt even getting a jersey.