micnificent28

He played in Tennessee.. he wasn't ready there. I think we are seeing a comment tread most QBs including Bryce, Caleb williams drake maye Sam darnold guys who have talent but aren't ready year one. I think we give up on talent to early instead of working with the guys who have the tools.

Awful is being out of the league like Corral..

You could say the same for baker and Sam here who have both made the pro bowl since leaving.

That's a fair thought and I agree but at the same time all that you gave up to get Matt corral who's out of the league versus a guy who's now looking to be the number one free agent in the whole offseason looks like a gross oversight and miss evaluation of talent to me

Probably so but I'd argue you'd rather have a talented player who's been through rough times and let him build from that than to still not be sure what you have at the position

To this day I never got what everybody didn't see in Willis and saw more in corral. Yes he had more work to do on fundamentals but he had more physical gifts and given the time we see how that has paid off. After sitting for two three seasons he now looks prime to take over the free agency market. There's a pretty good chance he's better than Bryce as well. There's just so much upside to a guy that's played very little but looks the part so far and we could have had them for a pile of magic beans.

I haven't considered cherelus being better than Wallace but, then again I haven't payed much attention to our linebacker play. I just know they aren't make a lot impact plays. Rozeboom has been better than I expected. Wallace has tools, I think he needs more time seasoning.

I m giving the staff benefit of the doubt hey maybe he is worse than Wallace and rozeboom.. but Wallace is hurt and Cherlus is starting and being spelled by bam Martin scott.. so I'm like is he worse than those 2?

He's had 100 tackle seasons in Arizona produced sacks and fumbles and ints.. he can't be worse than bam Martin scott..

Topic speaks for its self I have been looking at the snap count the past few weeks and have been waiting to see if he took the field. Only chance he has had is special teams. If nothing else if he completely has no brain his physical profile he should be at the least competing with bam Scott and Cherlus for snaps. He's been on the team for weeks now I would assume he at least can play a some of our defensive game plan. With how we barely have any drafted linebackers on our squad I would argue he should have started day one if we had 3 linebackers or nickel sets. He also profiled as having some pass rush ability so I would have to argue why isn't he seeing any snaps outside special teams?

Not that any corner wouldn't struggle with this kind of speed, but it's the only time I'm slightly asking myself is horn okay when thrown at.

I will never not think the guy is an elite corner possibly the best corner we have ever had. He is for the most part lock down with some of the best hands I have seen at corner. Now this is just me and the ole eye ball test, you line him up vs big and fast corners he's good. You line him up vs 4.3 elite all world speed he struggles greatly in that area. Olave has made him look bad in both matchups and off the top of my head I think he had a bad rep against the jets.. overall tho he can't be beat deep if you run faster than a 4.4.

This is a real dumb weakness to have. If you have known you can't run a QB sneak with Bryce, why haven't you drafted a power back? You. Need a 235-240 hammer for short yardage. If not that, why haven't you drafted a taysom hill like gadget player for just this situation? Jalen milrose from this past draft would have been perfect for these short yardage 4th and gotta have it situation. If your committed to young commit to his limitations and adapt.

Been wanting to try that.. right now I have the jets playbook with all of the stuff they have for fields..

Not sure myself and I have bought every Madden to come out in the last 20 or so years.. I'm sure he was in the game when he was playing ball most of his career but after that I dunno if it was a licensing issue or what.. he became scarce.. that said the Panthers don't get many legend/ hall of fame QBs if you play mut. I wanna say he's the only one.. you don't get Jake or Collins or whoever. You do get Bryce but they always give him like the weakest arm in the game so he's almost unplayable. Cam on the other hand comes with top end speed at the position.. probably the strongest arm at the time of release, most strength at the position and a rocket arm.. he's a offense changer.

Little light hearted topic.. For whatever reason Cam Newton doesn't appear in Madden ultimate team every year for whatever reason like most legends. I personally believe it's due to them robbing him of appearing on the cover of the video game series during his peak years winning NFL rookie of the year and the MVP super bowl run. Needless to say I'm a huge Competitive Madden ultimate team player spending hours of days crunching numbers and churning roster management. When this was announced it was a lightening rod in the Madden community. Competitive players know Newton is a game changer.. Your talking fastest quarterback in the game and highest throwing power in the game when he drops. That a long with. Unheard of ability at quarterback like freight train the ability to run over linebacker and corners and I was stoked. I m ashamed to say how much money threw at the game to try to pull newton and failed But it's a big deal seeing as every pro Madden player most certainly has to have him on their roster and the card art is pretty sweet.

I mean that's a huge turn off.. but a swift kick in the ass or a vet coaching him up I think is a much easier solution than fixing whatever is going on with Bryce.

To be fair I don't think the book is closed on Anthony Richardson. I probably would rather have him today than Bryce because of upside. He is still extremely young. Decision making and completion percentage can be improved holding a clipboard. Bryce isn't growing 7 inches getting half a second faster or growing a rocket arm tomorrow. I always say give me the tools you can't teach and let coaching figure out what to do with the rest. Now him stay healthy is a different can of worms.. but I don't think he's unsalvageable.

I think sellers is a dude..

I think highly reguarded QBs or prospects in general who fall for character concerns or even maybe injury worrys at a certain point are like value bargain bin sales.. to many examples.. Tunsil and his bong thing.. all pro.. Tavondre sweat the Texas defensive tackle who was a brick wall fell to the second round and his been a stud.. Payton wilson for the love of God we to Wallace over him.. and watching potential top 6 pick will johnson who was projected to us at certain points fall to the second round and we just said ihey rather have nic scorton (made we would have had to give up what a 5 or worse to move up 2-3 spots) is criminal.

Now this I can argue against.. if we talking backup I think Bryce will have a nice long NFL career... He doesn't make a ton of bad reads.. he is mobile.. I think he can not lose you games if you have the table set for him.. but the ability to make those around him better elevate a bad offense mask bad players like say cam going to the super bowl with Bryon bell and philly brown.. no doesn't have that.

That is probably true.. but was sanders so weak himself that he wasn't a top 3 round QB? He couldn't be any worse as a prospect as say Desmond ridder or that dude I forget we drafted in the 3rd round and is now playing in the arena league a few years ago.

Agreed. And at some point Dalton won't be Dalton anymore there isn't anything wrong with drafting a young backup.

I haven't thrown Bryce away yet.. tho I have lowered my potential outcome for him. I don't think he's ever going to be a top 6 QB.. he can be good enough to drive you to the prom as long as you give him a chaperone.. but really after all the stank that was on Sanders.. Dude fell to what the 5th round.. Cleveland took a QB before him and circled back a round or 2 later before we had the idea to take him as a back up or safety net. I don't think you should ever not scout quarterbacks just off the potential of possibly trading one for higher compensation like the Patriots did with Joe Milton. Just for trade packages and compensation you should always be grooming training or preparing a young late round QB for such situations. I don't understand the thinking of we have Bryce and Dalton we don't even need to think about another quarterback we're like set for generations here we're good..

I was just about to make a whole thread titled I really hate seeing Nick Scott play football but I think you pretty much covered it this 10 times 20 times 30 times whatever need them gone as of yesterday