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I like him, and would be hesitant but that could be our Icky replacement. It would be a gift from above. So it won’t happen… but I would say yes I accept. What really pushes it into ‘go’ for me is the concussions. It could be a situation where we are unloading a problem, vs keeping one.

Too late. You owe me a flat screen lol. He will be a mystery to us and himself for quite some time yet. Hell his 5th year is guaranteed and he won’t be giving any of it back. Nearly 16 million. I think. If he doesn’t return to form he can retire very damned luxuriously on 10-12 million or whatever he gets to keep after taxes and agent cut. We aren’t fuging him, let’s don’t fug ourselves.

Maybe. That’s the feeling I have. It will be all about money this time and with two, at least, besides us who may end up competing for him, I expect us to let him leave.

Yeah same stuff people saying in the spring of 2023. About this time of year. I was on it about margins too. They are smaller for him than for others. He actually, finally, did a little better in spurts than I saw coming but it took 3 years. And counting.

At least two other teams are wanting to talk with his agent. We won’t be in line any kind of discount.

Thank you. I asked he just came back with more of the same.

Last tackle we drafted there were different people in charge. May or may not make a difference.

Trading up on for anything, for me it would be the right LOT. But my hard and fast rule for 30 years has been never trade a future 1st. So not in favor.

Total up the Tepper era, we thought it was bad before…

If we in a situation where we have to BPA or really reach for a guy we like… it is a tough call. I’ll be honest, a big part of my resistance is I have just had enough of investing the high draft picks in weapons for Bryce. To me, we have the OROY at WR, we have Coker who gave us all we need out of WR 2 in the WC game. Get someone to compliment that - outside the first round and same for 2nd unless it is just a no brainer. A speed guy for number 3 WR, and if there still is such a thing I think a back that can catch, and do short yardage would match up very nicely to what we need and how the QB plays. I keep thinking of Mike Tolbert when we first got him.

Yeah. As great as he looked, and it was fun as hell watching that, when you look at the postgame reviews of the plays there were some huge holes for him to run through. It wasn’t all him. We get the OL straight we can get production. IMO the single biggest thing we are missing at RB, is a short yardage bull. Especially with a QB that is no help there, we need to address that.

Yeah slow down. I have googled and still don’t know if a patella rupture is interchangeable with posterior cruciate ligament. PCL.

Damn we almost agree. I think he is limited. I don’t think 20 yards is deep enough to consider him a good deep ball thrower. But we agree that the field needs to be stretched. The defense needs to feel legitimately concerned about all of the field. You cannot have that unless you threaten it. Right now they are playing the odds that one throw and catch is a fluke and they have a better chance not worrying about it. Case in point the Rams regular season, he did it once and they still left it unaccounted for. Who else would defenses play that way?

No we are gonna draft Sadiq, if you read the board today.

There is a scenario where coming to us would be 2 or 3 players who we could get in the mid 20s or so looking good to be there and a player people would trade up for, that would be redundant or a luxury for us, falling to 19. It is a very specific scenario that if it doesn’t come together, it just doesn’t. But if it did…

With this guy in charge now, the game could be moved to Europe next year.

You are confusing me now with the 2 at the same time stuff. The question we should be asking is simply what are his prospects 2-4 years down the road? Does this prevent him from returning to his pre injury level or will it leave him degraded? And if yes then how much? In a best case we may be able to get a handle on that by November/December, if he heals up cleanly and rehabs with no setbacks. Which is helpful for next year and maybe beyond.

Brooks … was that but may no longer be that. After 2 ACLs he is a lottery ticket. We don’t know. If we ever did. If we want to be secure in what we can put at RB, we are gonna have to address it as if he isn’t there. Let’s say we do address it successfully and he shines and then we are overcrowded. Trade deadline, someone can move out.

The context is, we still need multiple starters and we have more issues than decent picks.

I was looking for lingering at 35, or 25. Because if 35 that isn’t a big consideration for a 25 year old football player. Or however old Icky is. It’s okay if you don’t know, I am not demanding you give me a definite answer… you just provided the info that someone else maybe could have added some better context to

I would think RB is high on their list. I think we need a bowling ball that can catch. Like Tolbert. Young throws so many balls near the LOS you could get a lot out of the right RB.

If he is so desirable, trade out of the pick and set ourselves up to get the overall team straight. Get your explosive from later speedy WR. Or not. We have done enough loading up with high pick receiving options for a guy that may not throw 20 balls a game. If you want to get Anything out of that QB you have to protect him. Having all the receivers in the world is wasted without that. ps besides, if you want more receiving with this guy we have at QB it is better to look at getting it from the RB position.

What is the context of long term? NFL career or lifetime? That would matter.

It would be par for the course I guess. But splurging on a splashy TE, when we have had decent production by committee and have many other needs, is not a brilliant plan. If this is about replacing Tremble, there are guys in FA.

So you are saying we should have torn down and done a full rebuild. Were you saying that at the time or making that judgement in hindsight? The way it all happened was not simple. You are suggesting a simple plan, but that isn’t how it played out. If you are doing that you ride Rhule down to the bottom, which wasn’t done either. Brother I will repeat, it a convoluted mess. The Burns thing alone took a year and a half to play out.