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I wonder why he really quit with 3.5 mil on the table to play one last year, and a family to look out for. He was ‘okay’ with Wilks and heavy run emphasis. We ate a good bit of money releasing him. I do wonder a little what he would have looked like with 150 mil worth of guards flanking him, compared to whoever we had (who were so good I don’t even really remember their names). Probably no worse than Corbett.
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Well, he should have thought about that before he traded the future to draft a midget QB, and fired Reich because he couldn’t turn water into wine. No one wanted the job. He had to take a green entry level OC, and like it.
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I missed Tillis. Did Morgan, Canales and Idzik. Idzik was an interview the others I saw were pressers. Also that JJ/Luke podcast the team produced has a good bit of combine discussion, mostly from Luke’s perspective and his participation in it. But there is more to that video to see also. They are all worth the time if you have some.
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We all thought that last year. We got no clear resolution. Seems like it has distilled into: is the play calling holding him back, or is he holding back the play calling? It will be interesting to see if things change enough to see the answer. I know what I think. Personally, I’d rather Bevell be calling the plays. Idzik being so green is too easy of an excuse if Young doesn’t take off.
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Not sure there is anything that will do that outside of Young actually being a legit top 12 QB. Where he won’t need excuses made for him. It is just as likely to multiply them.
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It was a really unsatisfying year if the goal was resolution of the Young question. That was me, my big picture view. I can zoom into individual games and find a lot of satisfaction with some of them. We had some wins we haven’t had in years, and games that were competitive even in a loss - like the Wild Card game. We have been starved for even a taste of good for years, so from that standpoint it was good. But looking at it as confirmation that Bryce is the guy? Welcome to Yo yo roller coaster bi-polarville.
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Oh yeah the switching up the play calling is often the first punt. It usually isn’t a voluntary concession. Except I think this is possibly more an honest self scout than pressure from the owner type of a thing. Is this a defensive move reeking of fear like it normally is, trying to placate an unhappy owner/fan base or a sincere attempt to improve the results? I am leaning sincere. I say that because I get zero sense from Tepper that he is even one foot off the wagon. He seems to be very much on board, going by that McAfee interview. The average fans are the same. All bought in after making the playoffs.
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Exactly my feelings back then. I never took Wilson as a top QB because of that either. Right or wrong. I guess some of it was I envious. Of his luck lol.
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BC…. yeah he was the super sub and we could have used him to fill in at LOT. It is hard to trust a big guy with some age on him to come back the same after that injury. Even if people do come back from it, it is often a two year window before they are back to what they were, that first year can be sub par.
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Dan Morgan: “We’ll explore signing Bradley Chubb”
strato replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
Generally, especially older guys, it takes two years to be fully back. 3 years would take him through Scourton and Princely’s deals and if they earn 2nd contracts that is good timing. Also, watching g the Luke and JJ video I linked in the Luke thread Luke said the LB talent is there in this draft and he expects Morgan to get one. I am like, please. And make it a better pick than Wallace, Dan. Inauspicious debut there, on your linebacker drafting. -
This whole thing is good but I time set it to start when they shift the subject to fits, schemes, etc. I am really big on continuity and they address that on the way out of this little conversation. It is a lot about the combine at first and Luke is just so good at communicating and smart about stuff, I would listen to him talk about most anything. I watched the whole thing.
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Yeah the people that go there can’t seem to see it any other way. Everything else is the reason. Pretty sure there is more to bringing in Bevell than just helping Idzik learn to call plays. Maybe he can help to better fit an offense to this player and his skill set. Can only hope because we don’t scare any defense that is good. They don’t respect the pass they way we need them to. If you do happen to burn them once, they don’t adjust. As if it was a fluke. I think they think they are playing the odds.
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I thought of that too but concluded that his issues would affect him at TE same as WR. If they aren’t solved? Fail at either spot. If they are resolved? He is a WR. But there could be some crossover in how they use him.
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I admit to having a lot of resentment over that. To the point that whether it would help or not didn’t even matter, I was against it. Enough was enough. That still lingers. Watching that defense in 2024 really pissed me off, knowing it was neglected in order to prop him up. After we had already put so much into him. I want nothing to do with another WR drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Ditto TE. Especially TE. I understood McMillan last year way up at 8 and the defensive value not being there. And it worked out too, but that has to cap it. At 19 we shouldn’t run into a big value gap, taking a guy a couple of slots too early back at 19 won’t have that same impact. Except in some outlier scenario where a top ten guy is way down there. And that better be a LOT.
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If only. I was thinking a little platform for him to stand on could help. We could drag it around the field and put him on it in the gun. Little mini drum riser.
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Of course. I mean, thinking the playcalls or available plays are dictated in large part by the limitations of the QB is just plain ignorant! It has to be on the play caller’s lack of imagination. We have a QB that is standing on his tip toes trying to see the field, that couldn’t possibly be affecting anything, right? Anyhow I do agree that Canales was trying to do too much too fast, and was overwhelmed at times because of that. I will hope that we get a more diverse offense in the third year HC and QB are together, the same old passing charts we have seen most Mondays have to get more spread out. Maybe Bevell can help with that.
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Yeah I agree with TE being a low priority. And WR should be as well. IOW no reason to invest another high pick in a pass catcher. What is the point when we have games where we only throw it 20 times? It isn’t like there is the volume of targets to justify that. We should try and find a complimentary speed guy without making a major investment. We could use one of those. If anything, I would argue any pass catching we do chase should be from the RB position. That, we could get a lot of use out of. At least going off the last three years.
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When Bevell will came here I suspected maybe he would be that play caller. I did not at all expect him to be here as an assist to Idzik at being the play caller. Not sure what to think. Idzik is like the third generation of a football family so him being just some dumb ass assistent with a token OC title isn’t necessarily the case even though it seems an automatic assumption. It is possible he knows his stuff but is just inexperienced. But damn I didn’t see this coming until last week when I read someone like Person or another writer floated this scenario. And didn’t really take it as a foregone thing.
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Should Dave Canalas be on the HOT seat??
strato replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
That’s a stretch. A winning record and not backing into the playoffs ranks much higher than what our outcome actually was. At least for me. And I am pretty sure I am one of those people you are referring to. The holes were poked by the team’s shortcomings, no one here had a hand in that. Noticing them, is just seeing things for what they are. I didn’t expect us to be in the playoffs or even sniff them last year. We over achieved just to do that but also we showed what we were not, down the stretch. Us doing so well against the Rams’ defense two times and so poorly against other teams told me Seattle was going to beat them in the playoffs. They had obvious weaknesses. Speaking of, glad we could finally exploit someone’s weaknesses in the passing game. Those two Rams games were really entertaining games, both the win and the loss. Watch what the Rams do in the offseason, bet they will address it. -
Yeah I think the jobs are more consulting type of work, and probably have very little pressure to grind like a normal coach. I really was not inclined to like Caldwell because the offense was such a train wreck in his first year. I just always thought he may have had a lot of say in the way that offensive staff got put together. Which I saw as a fail, I especially did not get the Thomas Brown OC deal. Then add the backstabbing type of stuff rumored to be going on behind the scenes. It would be nice if we had some clarity on that but we are not gonna get it.
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Should Dave Canalas be on the HOT seat??
strato replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Exactly, we couldn’t beat a sorry last place team even once, with the division as the prize. I will give Bryce the Wild Card game but we went 1-3 and were only rescued by a very improbable tie breaker. If Atlanta had not got to 8-9 TB had the tie breaker on us too. That is obscured for a lot of people by the technicality of winning the division and a good effort in the Wild Card game. Personally I don’t think overlooking it helps people see an accurate picture of what the future might hold. IOW it wasn’t the flex a lot of people think it was. -
Should Dave Canalas be on the HOT seat??
strato replied to Jackson113.2's topic in Carolina Panthers
It is really disheartening to see people take their QBs the last couple of years and have them do so much better than we have with ours. And a second rounder, in his second game, beats us on our field? And looks really good doing it. Then comes back and beats us a second time in a must win game for us. That was major salt in the wound.
