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Yeah, especially if Brooks' rehab is going well. I wouldn't want to depend on him for anything beyond promising depth after back to back ACLs but I'd be open to moving Chuba and his contract and giving Rico more snaps.

There aren't 32 legitimate starting caliber QBs in the league. Just like when we were starting Bell and Chandler at OT, did that make them legit "starters"? I mean, technically I guess it did since they were indeed starting but they sure as hell weren't starting caliber players. If you have the 30th best starting QB in the league, you desperately need a starting QB and there's likely backups on other rosters better than your starter just like there were better backup OTs on other rosters than Bell and Chandler.

This. When Bryce falters again we have to have legit options behind him, not just the washed up ghost of Andy Dalton.

Much ado about nothing. Tempers flare in a physical game like football, especially when you take an absolute flogging.

Yeah, I don't want to force anything. Forget going into the draft with the plan to definitely draft a QB in the first. You don't do yourself any favors reaching on need. If the right fit isn't there I'm perfectly fine with adding a developmental guy after the first. We need multiple QBs. We need a starter and we need a backup. There's just not gonna be any energy in this fanbase as long as we keep trotting Bryce out there pretending that he's a starting QB. There will start to be hope again as soon as it's clear that we're turning the page on the whole Bryce thing.

Gotta sign a decent FA and add another one in the draft. Don't force anything but if the right guy is there in the 1st don't hesitate. Bryce ain't it.

I guess they didn't get the message.

Better call Luigi.

Got your excuses loaded? LOL

Id rather watch Rico run the wildcat than another game with Bryce or Dalton playing QB.

Literally everything you just typed is completely incorrect. Shingles can only effect people who have previously had chicken pox because it's caused by the same virus that lies dormant in your system and can be reactivated later in life. The chicken pox vaccine wasn't available in the U.S. until 1995 and wasn't available anywhere until 1988 so no one was vaccinated for chicken pox in the 1960s. The shingles vaccine wasn't available until 2006.

Maybe Tepper just needs a good massage.

Yeah, as a Heels fan I love it for Drake but dammit... LOL

Damn. The Pats leading the pack with an elite QB on a rookie contract and a 6-2 record? Must be nice.

I have no ill feelings toward Dalton. Hell, I have no ill feelings toward Bryce or Pickles or Armanti Edwards or anyone this organization has terribly overspent on. That's a complaint toward the organization. All I ask from players is to come in, out in the work, be open to coaching, etc. By all accounts all of those guys were/are. They either weren't good enough or in Dalton's case just over the hill and completely washed up. I ain't mad about a guy cashing a check offered to them. I would too.

I guess reddit is where people like this hang out?

Why you quoting me saying nobody wanted to listen? I was always onboard with picking T-Mac.

I'm okay with it. I mean, anyone in a PS in October isn't very good. We haven't been able to rush the passer all year and then this week we were atrocious against the run too. It's not like we'd be taking snaps away from pass rushers. You got a be able to do something. If you can't stop the run and you can't rush the passer then you're gonna get 40 hung in you. That's the case at any level of football be it NFL, college, HS, whatever.

We're playing the way we have to play on offense with our QB room.

Yeah, if you're gonna make a move like that it needs to be for a guy who checks every box down the line. And honestly, the last guy who did that is still looking very mid himself down in Jacksonville. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the NFL draft.

Everybody says Evans but I think they're too caught up in height. Mike Evans is an absolute beast. He's basically prime David Boston except he didn't derail his career with weight issues. He absolutely physically overwhelms people. That's not T-Mac. T-Mac's size is an asset but it's honestly secondary to his route running, sneaky speed, and natural body control.

You don't have to convince me of that. I've watched Bryce the super processing PG mentality wizkid play 30+ NFL games.

I'll never be convinced that Reich wanted anything to do with Bryce. As soon as we zeroed in on Bryce and it was obvious he was going to be the pick it just seemed like the wind went out of his sails and he was just like "fug it, I'm just gonna go through the motions until they send me packing". I still just want to know whether he was led to believe he'd have more sway in the QB decision or if he just felt that he'd be more persuasive in his arguments and be able to get his way.

He's talking about Bryce's rookie season. I'm done talking about his rookie season. A lot of the issues have been addressed and Bryce still looks like his ceiling is low level game manager. He just has too many physical shortcomings to overcome and the frustrating thing is that seemed blatantly obvious to me and many others on here coming into the draft. You just can't recreate Saban-era Alabama in the NFL where you have a talent advantage at nearly every position across the board almost every game.

The similarity is that Shedeur is still gonna be Shedeur. Major distraction with marginal NFL talent. That's why he plummeted in the draft and very well may have gone undrafted if the Browns owner didn't step in and tell the football people to get him those press clippings.