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Yeah, I concede that it's very possible they take a QB I'm just going on a hunch that they won't. I mean, he threw for over 4500 yards and 26 TDs vs. 11 INTs last year.

I think we probably trade up to #5 with Cincy for Justin Fields. I think the Falcons will try to put together one last run with Matt Ryan.

Plenty of people have explained why they don't care for Jones as a prospect, you've just ignored it and acted like no one has explained their position to you because it doesn't jive with your opinion.

A stat that means a lot to the Foxes and Riveras if the world who play not to lose but a stat that has very little correlation with winning.

This is going to lead to increased revenue which will in turn lead to increased cap and... you guessed to! Bigger contracts. This is intro to Econ 101 stuff.

My point is quite clear here. Teddy is the worst case scenario. Teddy caliber play at a near $23M cap hit virtually ensuring a bad season but not quite bad enough to land a legit franchise QB prospect isn't acceptable and isn't a plan built around building a winning franchise. It's the worst possible option for the betterment of the future.

Ah... The "my logic has failed so now I'll resort to insults based on failed logic" approach. LOL indeed. The revenue IS the production per the CBA. The production has increased. This concept is proving exceedingly difficult for someone who supposedly didn't need a lecture on the CBA.

Evidently you do. That same workload has been driving revenue growth. It's really odd how many fans side with the billionaires. How have you been convinced that you're in the good old boys club? LOL!

Now do the cost value analysis on Teddy Bridgewater... I agree. We absolutely have to look towards the future and moving on from Teddy for better or worse is the first step. There's no future in the 5-7 win range and that's where you're likely to end up with Teddy, plus you have $17M in cap space gone. There's no cost value analysis that comes out positive for keeping Teddy. That's what I've been arguing the whole time you've been trying to convince yourself that somehow some way keeping Teddy is a viable plan. It's not something that a well ran organization would do.

Because the cap keeps increasing due to league revenues skyrocketing outside of one pandemic impacted season. That's how the CBA works.

I'm not necessarily saying set ourselves up to lose. I'm fine with swinging a hail Mary deal for a QB this year too. But doing nothing at the QB position or hoping for a mid-late round QB to come in and save the day just isn't a plan a winning organization would implement.

The John Fox/Ron Rivera "play not to lose" mentality is still alive and well I see. Get rid of the purgatory. It's exactly like I said when we signed Teddy - he's not good enough to allow you to compete but he's likely to be just good enough to deny you the opportunity to draft a top tier QB prospect. Lo and behold, here we are. I'd prefer not to be here again next year. Ditch the anchor holding us back.

LOL! That was five years ago. He's on his third roster since that injury. The guy isn't good enough. All the mental gymanstics in the world isn't going to make him good enough. We're sub-.500 again and $17M of cap space down the drain if he's in the roster next year. 100% loser mentality.

Remember that time Teddy sailed the ball ten feet over a wide open DJ's head in the endzone then blamed the coaching staff for not getting the play call in sooner so he had time to check to a run? LOLOLOLOL

It's stunning how quickly so many in this fan base have reverted back to last summer's mentality of desperately trying to convince themselves that Teddy might be the answer despite the mountain of evidence screaming otherwise.

QBs who have been on four rosters in seven years aren't starting caliber QBs.

You think Teddy and his 15 TDs vs. 11 INTs were the reason we we're in position to be competitive in the 4th quarter? My god, this fan base is completely shell shocked. We have suckitis PTSD.

Hate to tell you, but there's a reason for that.

But we would've been a LOT better. Add a great LT prospect or a great CB or MLB prospect and I honestly don't think it has much of an impact on our final record. Maybe it gets us another W. That's why the far and away #1 focus should be on finding a QB. The issue with the slow burn roster build is that then you gotta pay guys. Roster building is never done because you can't afford to retain everyone. Legit QBs allow you to compete while you churn the rest of the roster.

Exactly. No one has a crystal ball on how these guys are going to turn out, but as prospects? Yeah, this is absolutely a historic class. There are 4 guys in this class who would normally get strong consideration at #1 overall. Lawrence, Fields, and Wilson are all guys who would be in #1 overall conversations in a lot of drafts and if Jared Goff and Alex Smith can go #1 overall, then Mac Jones could too.

Wings under him? He had the best season he's ever had. He's just not a starting caliber NFL QB.

Who knew who Cam Newton was before he won the Heisman and led Auburn to the national championship? Who knew who Joe Burrow was before he did the same? It's not about who you were a year ago, it's about who you are now. The way the draft goes down is going to prove this is a historic QB class. We'll have to see if they prove worthy of that on the field, but they're going to prove worthy on draft day.

The mediocre QB was the difference between 5-11 and competing for a playoff berth last year.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but we're already there.

It's not about next season. It's about Teddy not being the answer. What does improving to 6-10 or 7-9 do for the future of the team? What y'all are talking about when you go down this path is basically the John Fox/Ron Rivera "play not to lose" philosophy applied to team building.