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The Panthers’ Bryce Young Problem is Getting Old
raleigh-panther replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
He needs to win when it matters, not when it doesn’t. The Panthers were out of the playoffs I doubt seriously that those teams came into Charlotte fearing the Panthers and certainly not fearing Young and that is a problem. the playbook is cut down exponentially for him…either because of arm strength or ability. Opposing defenses have zero to fear from him zero This past weekend mattered. 3 turnovers should’ve been 4 it was incredibly important for him to perform well he didn’t and let’s not kid ourselves that the Jags are world beaters The more expectation pressures the worse he is. he is 1 and 15 on the road how many games has he been the reason they won ? How many the reason they lost ? Has he ever elevated his team ? look at other teams in the league vs young. Everything is painful and laborious. ..and that’s what happens when the field is not stretched. The offense under Young had has absolutely no flow or rhythm at some point, a pro team has to fish or cut bait like the cards did with Rosen, or other teams that have moved on. It is time….even if he manages to win 3 or 4 games, it is over his ceiling is his floor I’m sorry for fans, for him but he isn’t even an avg nfl qb and that’s not good enough -
Thanks for doing this. The Huddle is archaic despite Zod’s promises
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Unfortunately, and given the backup situation, there is no choice but to play him either to the trade deadline or all year i do not think Dalton could last a season there aren’t QBs, serviceable QBs, sitting around waiting for a call that know the offense the time to do something was at season’s end if they felt he was fool’s gold that said 1. I’d start him and try to salvage something he can do to get to the trade deadline 2.ie Get him to perform as best possible and trade him at the deadline. San Fran may need a backup It is better for him and better for the franchise 3. Accept that Dalton starts for at least 4 games 4 look at practice squads, free agency everywhere and bring in a younger player and bring him up to speed while Dalton plays Run the ball short passes 5. Roll around in the poo they created until season’s end 6. Draft a qb in 2026 sad thing, even if he performs better, his floor is his ceiling
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Yes i shared that second video yesterday along with one from Panthers advice both are credible at some point, people have to accept the tape dont lie Accept what their eye see 3 called turnovers dont lie, shoulda been 4 In the nfl, if you aint got at least a consistent qb, you aint got nothing if isnt just the turnovers, it is the timing of them bith in game and situational of the season like someone said, when it doesn't matter, he plays well. When it does matter, forget about it, he does not handle the expectations
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Solid Breakdown of Bryce's Poor Performance/PFF Stuff
raleigh-panther replied to Matthias's topic in Carolina Panthers
Perfection -
This 5 min video, I share knowing we turn the corner now to the Cardinals it is a qb driven league. Let’s, as if we don’t know, see what Young looks like this week we can point to the sun, the moon, whatever, but 3 badly timed turnovers and what should’ve been a 4th no more excuses
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Canales needs to concentrate on coaching
raleigh-panther replied to Jmac's topic in Carolina Panthers
DC, aka Mr Rogers, needs to try this -
100% agree he is many ways, immature…and for the high stress, high visibility of the NFl, I don’t see it. That mental stress has broken others with far more physical talent than he has
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Is Tepper going to clean the house again after this season?
raleigh-panther replied to Lame Duck's topic in Carolina Panthers
Come back week 17, it will be the same with this franchise, we have all seen enough reruns to know how this will end -
The Panthers’ Bryce Young Problem is Getting Old
raleigh-panther replied to Proudiddy's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am with you… 1000 percent i hoped for the best this year though I knew better..,for the team and mostly for the fans he promptly poo on that and quickly. That is why his staring alone at the video board pissed me off. He hasn’t ‘arrived’. He should have been talking to his team or coaches instead, mindless standing there as if he is in his living room watching YouTube the very next play, interception a nfl team cannot afford to start 0 to 4 in the first qtr. right now the only win I see is the saints -
I’m trying to be positive on Bryce Young, but….
raleigh-panther replied to LegioX's topic in Carolina Panthers
This, 1000 percent …and let’s be honest…do we really think KC or Philly took playing them seriously…I don’t …and Atlanta could see the score coming in from the other game that determined their fate at season’s end he is also better with prevent defenses later in the game i wish him no ill will but at the NFL level, he just is not fit for it he is not physically fit or tough enough His short comings handicapped the offense I mean sweet Jesus, you don’t know how to slide…still…had you, that fumble would not have been lost Qb, in the league, it is a grind. It is physically brutal and mentally torturous Everyone is a critic I listened to a Cam podcast last week about the crap he put up with and he is a tough guy. look at the year 1 and 2 QBs, will he ever be as good as they are, will he ever play at a high and consistent level…no is my thought. It was a mistake then, it is a mistake now -
The Panthers have an effort problem
raleigh-panther replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
It is a common theme of the new regime … ….except at QB -
The Panthers have an effort problem
raleigh-panther replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nothing has changed friend in 7 years -
From Obser Canales 5 takeaways after film review
raleigh-panther replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I cannot believe that after 7 years, they are still the worst team in the league cant get rid of an owner so, gotta get my ass back to church on sundays…more productive then wasting time on them….I’m on the west coast now, and they typically play at 10am out here on Sunday ticket I absolutely hate it when they are on regular tv out here, as they ,Abe this weekend, they are a total embarrassment -
From Obser Canales 5 takeaways after film review
raleigh-panther posted a topic in Carolina Panthers
Mr Rogers is going to Mr Rogers i find all of this disturbing…from, as HC he is ‘pushing the Dc for younger players to play’ to the same issues getting young in and out of the huddle look at every other team from this weekend and tell me if any of them have these types of problems, several have first or second year coaches and QBs from observer Im putting #5 first and the items in entirety so i dont out my spin on it 5 Canales ‘pushing’ for younger players to play on defense The Panthers’ coaching staff and front office have been echoing the same thoughts all offseason — that developing the young players is a core tenet of their long-term plan. And that was true on offense. Brycen Tremayne, 25, for instance, got more snaps (19) than David Moore (12) at the receiver position Sunday. Second-year tight end JT Sanders took the most snaps at the tight end spot — 61% of all offensive plays. But on defense, that wasn’t necessarily true. Only two second-year players played the bulk of the defensive snaps — linebacker Trevin Wallace (86%) and cornerback Chau Smith-Wade (71%) — whereas rookie outside linebackers Nic Scourton (27%) and Princely Umanmielen (12%) played very little. Moreover: Second-year safety Demani Richardson didn’t play a defensive snap; rookie safety Lathan Ransom played nine defensive snaps and 12 on special teams. When asked about the team’s playing distribution Sunday, the coach responded: “I’m pushing that.” I’d love for all of our young guys to play,” Canales said. Evero, the defensive coordinator, calls the plays on defense and serves as the “head coach of the defense” in many ways. “I really believe that it is so valuable for those guys to be out there. Are they going to be perfect? No. Will every rep that they take be valuable and beneficial for their future? Yes. And so I would love for those guys to get opportunities out there so we can see what we have. And also just knowing that it’s a long season and a lot of people are going to play at different times. It’ll help us going forward.” Canales affirmed that it wasn’t a conversation he’d have to have with Evero. He said it was something the Panthers have to address “collectively as a staff.” 1. Burning the play clock: Canales addresses offensive operational issues The Panthers had two drives that burned over five minutes of game clock on Sunday. One yielded a field goal. The other, a turnover on downs. Some of that could be explained by at-the-line adjustments, a propensity to get Chuba Hubbard and the run game going. But much of that, Canales said, is a combination of not getting the play into quarterback Bryce Young in time and Young also not getting out of the huddle fast enough. In other words: It’s an operational bug — not a feature. “That’s something that we want to get better at,” Canales said, when asked about getting the plays off with only a few seconds left in the play clock. “So we’ll be attacking that this week.” Such an issue “creates more challenges” for the Panthers offense, Canales said. “We have the information we need to get the hot (routes) right,” he said. “To get the protection right. But it’s those critical 5 or 6 seconds — it doesn’t seem like a lot of time, but it’s everything for us to be able to play at the line of scrimmage, get the right looks and execute.” 2. Tackling issues: Explaining the 71-yard run and more The headlining issue of the Panthers’ defense on Sunday was something you’ve heard before: This defense couldn’t stop the run. Carolina gave up 200 rushing yards on Sunday. Most of which arrived via Travis Etienne Jr., who had 143 yards on the day — half of which came on a 71-yard rush in the second quarter. Canales said that the 200-yard game — the seventh consecutive game the Panthers have given up over 200 rushing yards, dating back to last year — was mostly a product of poor tackling. “Coming off the film, the scheme was there; we gotta get guys down,” Canales said. “We had a couple of (tackles for losses) available for us early on in the game. We gotta get the guy to the ground. “The big 70-yarder was really like a free player — we got two guys outside, two guys in the D-gap, and we’re trying to spill that so Tre’von Moehrig can be in position to make that play. They cut us off, so all of a sudden, he’s got a decision to make. Do I jump inside or hop back out? And the ball got popped out there, and Nick Scott had a chance to make that tackle and didn’t get him down.” This issue goes further back than the Canales regime. In 35 games with Ejiro Evero as the team’s defensive coordinator, the Panthers have given up 120 rushing yards or more 26 times. 3. Reliving that fourth-and-1 play call The play that caused the most hand-wringing and head-scratching on Sunday was arguably the most consequential one of the game: on the Panthers’ first drive of the second half, fourth-and-1 on the Jaguars’ 5-yard line. Canales called a play that solicited an empty backfield. The result? A snap that appeared to surprise Young; tight end Ja’Tavion Sanders and receiver Xavier Legette floating to the left; Young throwing the ball to the back pylon where no one was. Turnover on downs. “We had good matchups,” Canales said, echoing what he said Sunday after the game. “We had what we wanted. We just gotta execute it. And that’s kind of what we went back to. Bryce and I had that conversation. He liked the call. We had guys in good matchups, and we just gotta execute.” 4Turk Wharton out for 2-4 weeks, plus other injury news Defensive lineman Turk Wharton — who was making his debut for the Panthers on Sunday — was having a great game before going down in the second quarter with a hamstring injury and not returning. After Wharton’s MRI, Canales said the lineman is going to miss “two to four weeks.” Canales did not know if he’d be moved to the injured reserve Sunday. -
Jared Feinberg's Panthers v Jaguars film review
raleigh-panther replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
To say it was ‘not Bryce’ lacks all credibility. He is making the same mistakes he has made for 3 years -
Normally I would agree but this guy has not ‘arrived’. He is not so good that shouldn’t be talking to his receivers, his line, trying to figure out what to do ..and the very next play, interception It ain’t like he is Mahomes or Brady out there he is very ‘oh well’. That 4th 1 throwaway, unforgivable. I don’t know if he can’t see people. Or over people. Or at all
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Not sure everyone can launch this https://fb.watch/B_-ee3-k7x/?mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e our qb staring at the jax video board as offensiveteammates stand by themselves waiting for him Not sure of the timing he through an interception directly after
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You are absolutely right there is zero excuse for Sunday. Zero truth be told, and we know this, when fitterer went, all the rest including the scouts, should have too and Evero Otherwise, dirty feet in clean socks we all have followed this franchise for a long time, some since the beginning and we know poo when we see it that goes for the Mr Rodgers HC too Sure, like Bryce, his good to his momma and all, but that isn’t what this is judged on
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Excerpts from Joe person Sept. 7, 2025Updated 6:51 pm PDT JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — For six weeks, players and coaches spoke optimistically about how the offseason additions and the growth and development during training camp would make things different this year. And then the Carolina Panthers went out and did what they usually do in Week 1: put out a pitiful performance that will make it hard for the fan base to believe in this coaching staff and roster. Yes, it’s just one game and they have 16 more to show 2025 will be different from 2024, 2023 and every other year since 2017, which is the last time this franchise made the postseason. But that argument would be easier to swallow if it weren’t for the fact that the two things that dogged the Panthers for much of last season reared their ugly heads again in Sunday’s listless 26-10 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars: a porous run defense and another shoddy start for Bryce Young. Year 3 for the No. 1 pick began just like the first two — with too many turnovers and not nearly enough plays to convince you that Young is the clear, long-term answer at quarterback. Young led just one touchdown drive in all three Week 1 losses; the Panthers mustered 10 points in each while being outscored by a combined 97-30. With a three-turnover day against the Jaguars, here’s the ugly running score of Young in Week 1: seven turnovers, three touchdowns (two passing, one rushing) and three games with passer ratings of 49 or lower. All the turnovers and empty possessions sent Young past his boiling point on the first drive of the second half. With Canales going with an empty set on fourth-and-1 from the Jags’ 5, Young failed to find any open receivers and threw the ball away. Young stalked to the sideline and slammed his helmet to the ground after Canales tried to talk to him. Neither Young nor Canales would share the source of Young’s frustrations, other than to say it wasn’t directed at Canales. “Definitely could do a better job of body language there,” Young said. “It’s on me. But just competing. That’s all.” It was a curious play call from Canales, given Chuba Hubbard’s physical running style and the fact that the Panthers invested heavily in people-moving guards Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis last season. Canales said he liked the matchup and the concept in the five-receiver alignmenT Young threw two interceptions and lost a fumble at the end of a 7-yard scramble when he didn’t slide. That has been a recurring issue for Young, who has said it doesn’t come naturally because he didn’t play baseball. The offensive struggles didn’t fall entirely on Young. The youthful receiving group managed just one catch longer than 20 yards — a 21-yarder to Tetairoa McMillan — in its first game following Adam Thielen’s trade to the Minnesota Vikings. But McMillan tried unsuccessfully to make a one-handed grab on a nice Young throw in the end zone, and Xavier Legette missed out on a chunk play when he didn’t get a second foot inbounds. “We’re gonna keep giving them opps. That’s just what we’re gonna do. These are the guys we have. We love ’em, and I’m fired up for this group,” Canales said. “But they’ll be the first ones to come up here and tell you, ‘I’ve gotta make that play.’” Legette, who struggled with drops as a rookie, confirmed Canales’ assessment. “Anytime the ball’s in the air, those plays, they’ve gotta be made,” he said. “I’ve just gotta do a better (job) realizing where I am on the field, dragging my foot. Get better at those things.” The Panthers have a laundry list of things they need to improve. Put the run defense at or near the top, like it was last year when Carolina became the first team since 1980 to give up 3,000 rushing yards in a season. The Panthers are on that pace again after Jacksonville gouged them for 200 yards on 32 carries, good for a robust 6.3-yard average. A third of it came on one play: Travis Etienne Jr.’s 71-yard thunderbolt on the Jags’ first offensive possession following a 76-minute weather delay in the second quarter. With several defensive linemen failing to shed blocks and safety Tre’von Moehrig tripping over teammate D.J. Wonnum, Etienne was quickly into the third level of the defense without being touched. Safety Nick Scott dived at and missed Etienne, who made it to the Panthers’ 20 before linebacker Christian Rozeboom ran him down. “It’s the hardest tackle to make in football. If you make that tackle, you’re a hero. If you miss that tackle, you’re not. They pay guys to make me miss in the post. I don’t know what to tell you at that point,” Scott said. “I want to make that tackle more than anybody in the world. But we’ve gotta do everything, starting all the way from the front to the second level. If everybody does their job, it’s a lot easier on everybody else. I’ll never blame anybody. I’m back there. I’ve gotta make it.” Two plays after Etienne’s career-long run, wideout Brian Thomas Jr. scored on a 9-yard misdirection, and the Jaguars never trailed by fewer than two touchdowns again.