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Trey Lance has been looking pretty decent with the chargers . Kinda reminds me of how Harbaugh was good with Capernick with the 49ers.

Hope this will be chubba on game 1 vs the Jags lol

Teppper just needs to chill for a bit. And quite honestly Canales inherited Bryce as well. He deserves at least 3 seasons to either make Bryce work or get his own QB to make it work. Not saying Bryce is bad right now, but clarifying the context here. We still need to see him perform well over an entire season and get that win total up over well over 3 or 5 wins. I think we need something like an 8-9 or 9-8 season to really make it seem like the team is making progress. And year 3 of Canales should be when the expectations go up imo. 10 or more wins and/or playoffs should be expected by then.

Pretty sure he got picked up as the DC for the Jets. Not exactly sure what happened to him after he bizzarely got let go from San Fran after their last trip to the Super Bowl

LA Chargers with a 4th down goal line stop on the Saints.

I never liked the injury excuses. There's always going to be guys that go down in a season on a defense, it's just a question of who and when. I won't act like we don't have shitty depth on defense. But at some point, Evero is the common denominator if they suck again. Imagine at any other job, if you're leading a department that constantly underperforms, at some point you are going to be held responsible as the leader and get canned for lack of performance, regardless of what may have caused it.

Rattler starting for the Saints. Heineke looked al little innacurate first drive for the Chargers but there was also some WR drops. They are wearing those crisp powder blue unis

They are both still relatively young. Kyle Allen around 29 backup for the Lions, Heineke around 32 backup for the Chargers. IDK what Kyle Allen has been up to in the years since he left the Panthers but, Heineke had some good games for the Commanders when Rivera was still there.

Going from 5-12 to 8-9 is a pretty sizable improvement of 3 wins. I think there's just been so much hype around this team this off-season that it might feel like failure though. We have not had 8 wins or more since then 2017 season, which was also our last winning season. I don't think it's realistic to think our defense is going to be good enough for us to do something crazy like flip our record from 5 - 12 to 12-5 or something. But I would be pleasantly surprised if that happened.

Apparently Case Keenum is still in the league, backup QB for the Bears. Not sure if he's the backup or if Bagent is. He must be just as old as Dalton is, he's been playing for a while.

Hot damn, another sack by the Bears. Austin Booker their rookie they drafted in 2024 has 2 sacks.

Caleb Williams didn't play but Tua did for one drive, he looked decent. They brought up the Bryce Young trade yet again. Apparently Luther Burden III (WR) was the last piece they got in the trade. I listened to a few pre season games yesterday while working. Jaxon Dart looked pretty good for the Giants. Next game up today is the Saints vs Chargers. I watched the Chargers in the Hall of Fame game, oddly Trey Lance looked pretty good and so did their rookie RB from UNC. Saints should be giving some playing time to their rookie QB drafted in R2 Tyler Shough. I'm not sure if the Saints are set on which QB will be starting by game 1. Tyler Shough or Spencer Rattler . Both should probably get a lot of reps in the pre-season.

Probably not a ton of interest in these games I guess from you guys, but I've been watching/listening to some of them. Watching the Bears vs Dolphins now. Bears defense looks pretty decent. The have had a good number of sacks and this dude almost had a pick 6, dropped it of course though.

So what what you consider as a successful season for our two rookie edge rushers? Assuming Wonnum and Jones stay healthy?

What did he say? I'm listening to a radio broadcast on Sirius with Kurt Coleman and some other dudes

Legette got ejected!! Wow. Very bad look for him!! Ohh boy will that be a talking point all week long

Deiontae Johnson is a scrub. Sheddur must not have been following his shenanigans in the nfl last year lol

And I had been hearing people and podcasters saying Coker was expandable after Renfro was doing well before he got hurt lol

She's implying if Sheddur Sanders does well in the pre season it might force the Browns hand and move him up the depth chart There's been an ongoing situation this off-season with the Browns burying Sheddur on their QB depth chart and not giving him many reps in training camp, despite him outperforming Dillon Gabriel at least (the other qb they drafted 3 rounds ahead of where they drafted Sheddur).

You must have been excited on draft night lol I felt similar about walker but i felt like I saw a huge outrage when Walker wasn't the pick

You must have been excited on draft night lol I felt similar about walker but i felt like I saw a huge outrage when Walker wasn't the pick

This is a good point, it may ultimately come down to who the better qb is. But say if the Bears have a backup qb and win the super bowl. Then they won the trade imo, because they still used a bunch of the players acquired in the trade to achieve ultimate success

I acknowledged that in the post. This is more about your opinions on how the trade is going. As of right now. I think its fun to revisit the trade after every off season.

Yea it is early to evaluate the trade still but we've at least got some solid data to work with now. Bryce has completed 2 NFL seasons and Caleb Williams has completed 1. I know he wasn't part of the trade but I also include CJ Stroud and the Texans into this as well, since we could have selected him in 2023. As it stands right now, I feel like the trade is pretty much dead even. Bears got quite a few players from it but their team success isn't much better or worse than ours. Neither team has made the playoffs in the 2 seasons since the playoffs have started. Obviously the Texans and Stroud have been far and away the most successful team of all 3 teams, winning two playoff games in those 2 seasons and having winning seasons + winning their division 2x in a row. But all 3 teams have underwent significant change in the off season. The Bears massively upgraded their oline similar to what we did before the 2024 season, and also got a new HC. The Texans overhauled their WR core. The Panthers got some very solid additions in the off season as well. I think the Bears are 2- 0 vs the Panthers since the trade, but the Texans are 0-1 to the Panthers. What say you? Who won the trade thus far? Panthers or Bears??

I forgot we moved up out of the 7th round with that Denver multi pick swap trade...