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I knew he was with the Vikings in PS but didn't realize they had kept him and then traded him. Also, as to why he might not be playing: "Increasingly well traveled, Howell sat out Minnesota's preseason finale. He ended August with 118 passing yards and an interception on 12-of-18 passing in the preseason. However, his last appearance in purple was a disaster in which he completed one of his five pass attempts for 13 yards and the aforementioned pick."

I think just the fact that he is not with ANY team this year says a lot. I mean there are some desperate teams out there and no one has brought him in. So yeah, I think you are right about there being something more to the story.

You are right about him having a huge arm.

Where are you getting your numbers? According to pro-football-reference, Youngs bad throws number is 17.5%. Caleb Williams for comparison is at 22.5% and Stroud is at 16.3%. So pretty much the same as Stroud and considerably better than Williams. As far as Lawrence goes, yes he is better at 15.6% but last year he was at 17.5% and the year before that he was at 18.8%. The same or worse than the "top in bad throws" Bryce. Given all of that, how can you claim Bryce is at the top and Trevor is below average. And I must say I find it ironic that I can comment on Bryces' lack of receiver talent in 24 and 23 and you say I am just using that as an excuse, yet you excuse Trevors' play with "The Jags skill positions players have been a big let down this year." So which is it - does the talent surrounding a QB matter or not?

I think it's because in the last half of that season (9 games) he had a total of 8 TD's to 13 INT's.

I don't know what you are talking about. All I am comparing are 2024 numbers to 2025 numbers straight from the sheet. Every stat, every game. I am not being selective. You posted a select group of stats from 2024 vs 2025. I posted the full stats from 2024 vs 2025. Personally I could care less about 2023 at this point. Kirk Cousins had a fanatastic year in 2023 but would you want him today - no you wouldn't. Rating a QB today based upon his performance from almost three years ago is foolish.

Nothing lol. Sorry I stepped away and responded to the wrong post.

And yet his numbers are better than Lawrences' and you stated you would trade for Lawrence and his 50M contract. Why?

I understand having a plan B. I just don't think they are actively looking for his replacement at this time.

I don't know. I think Coen has done a pretty good job down there.

If you're going to post comparisons, you should post them all. If you take the time to look, you can see he has improved in pretty much every catagory: TD%, TD-INT ratio, succ% (passes going for 1st downs), yards/game, adjust yards gained per pass attempt, 4th qtr comeback, game winning drives etc.

I don't think they are looking for his replacement. I think he fits what Canales wants to do. I think they are looking for continued improvement and believe it will come with time. I don't expect them to try and extend him but unless he just craps out the rest of the season, I would expect them to pick up his 5th year.

Why. Lawrence is either the same or worse than Young in almost every statistically catagory. And it isn't just this year. comp%, TD-INT ratio, 1st down success, etc. He might be bigger and have a stronger arm but he has not played like the better QB.

Brilliant!

JaMarcus Russell could drive it 20 yards easily but that didn't make him a good QB.

“All I know is you’ve spent a lot of time and energy arguing that a Panthers player doesn’t deserve national recognition for their performance. That just seems like an odd stance for a fan to take.”

I can't help but think there are some here who dislike Bryce so much they would rather watch the Panthers tank than see Young succeed.

Came for the DB, stayed for the BY lol Don't know who Kay Adams is but I like what she's saying. ( I just can't go to X to watch her. That place is poisonous. It's like a toxic dump site. I wanna take a shower after being there only 5 minutes )

Who would have thought

Following that logic, the Panthers should wind up at 9-7.

Just the first five minutes are on the Panthers and it's pretty balanced with some positives as well as negatives concerning Bryce. It's nice hearing something postive this late in the season again. It's been a long, long time.

To be honest, I do not think any teams defense has been ready for the Rams in the 1st half of games. Until Sunday, I think they had outscored the opponents 63-3 over the past 6 games or something.

I do not expect anyone who doesn't believe in Young as the future to be swayed this year - regardless of how well he plays from here on. That's OK. I understand, it's no big deal. I just get tired of the constant small bits of praise only to be followed with some passive aggressive derogatory comment. When he has a bad game, it's absolutely toxic around here. When he has a good game, the haters still bring that toxicity to any post that allows them to get a dig in.

Bryce completed 75% of his passes, accounted for 3 TD's, had a 46% 3rd down completion percentage and finished with a 147 QB rating. In what world is that NOT an overall good game?

3 of Staffords passes accounted for 117 of his yards. So what. Does that make his performance look worse than it was. Or are other qbs just held to a different standard.