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Pro Wrestling GDT


RedMage138

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Well, since the old thread has been buried with nothing really to talk about until last night, I figured it was time for a new pro wrestling general thread.

Talk about anything wrestling here. WWE, TNA, ROH, Indies, whatever just keep the topic to wrestling.

I must say, heel Punk is best Punk. Can't wait to see where this goes.

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punk just doesnt do it for me.

this generic pg era poo is absolutely atrocious. I recently started watching again since Extreme Rules and Daniel Bryan and Ziggler are the only good things going. I don't get the CM Punk hype, maybe i havent been watching long enough. Raw/Smackdown are disgraces now, every show is awful.

In the words of John Cena "This fudgin sucks!!".

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punk just doesnt do it for me.

this generic pg era poo is absolutely atrocious. I recently started watching again since Extreme Rules and Daniel Bryan and Ziggler are the only good things going. I don't get the CM Punk hype, maybe i havent been watching long enough. Raw/Smackdown are disgraces now, every show is awful.

In the words of John Cena "This fudgin sucks!!".

You've only seen face Punk. This is the hype behind Punk.

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yeah im excited to see what hes gonna bring.

Also a possible spoiler/rumor:NWO is coming back with Punk being the leader

Yeah, I doubt that. Punk has done great work in the past with a stable behind him but I don't see the NWO coming back.

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Kevin Nash's twitter definitely suggest something is goin down. I hope it happens.

Nash is also old/crazy/drunk.

The problem is how misused stables have been in WWE recently. The whole idea of the Nexus was great but the payoff wasn't there. The New Nexus wasn't any better.

The idea could be good, bring in a bunch of young heels and have them feud with the older faces. Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, Miz, Rhodes, Sandow, Cesaro, a returning Wade Barrett, a debuting Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose or Chris Hero. Have them feud with Cena, Sheamus, Jericho (turning face) etc. but the same thing was done with the Nexus 2 years ago.

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Yeah I didn't watch when "Nexus" was around so IDK.

Also, I remember when the titles other than the championship ones actually meant something. Divas/Tag Team/Intercontinental/hardcore etc. used to be big. Now it's "lol kofi kingston and santino marella".

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