The mobile quarterbacks.

[Panthers111]

Only in the past few years have we really seen the emergence of the mobile QB. Before Cam there were guys like Vick, Mcnair, Young, Culpepper, and Mcnabb.

 

Now we have Cam, Cap, Wilson, RG3, etc. The quality and number of mobile QBs have gone up. 

 

It is just a huge misunderstanding/misused phrase that mobile QBs cant win. They havent won because there were so few of them and the quality of their play wasnt quite up to par. 

 

Now theres a good group out there so expect things to change. It is the new NFL. 

[mcdougal]

Are you forgetting Steve Young?

 

 

No I haven't. I wanted to use QBs that everyone universally think of as mobile and considered failures.

[mcdougal]

Only in the past few years have we really seen the emergence of the mobile QB. Before Cam there were guys like Vick, Mcnair, Young, Culpepper, and Mcnabb.

 

Now we have Cam, Cap, Wilson, RG3, etc. The quality and number of mobile QBs have gone up. 

 

It is just a huge misunderstanding/misused phrase that mobile QBs cant win. They havent won because there were so few of them and the quality of their play wasnt quite up to par. 

 

Now theres a good group out there so expect things to change. It is the new NFL. 

 

 

And of the crop, those guys were FAIRLY successful. So even the "failures" were still on par, better than the average NFL QB as far as getting a team to the post-season and generally winning.

 

Throw in The Golden Calf of Bristol and Vince Young too. Both have gotten to the post season in limited action and both have winning records.

[FootballMaestro]

How about 4/6 teams in the NFC bracket having a mobile QB? Does that bestow a benefit?

 

I guess, maybe? However, I really didn't think about it. 

 

Who was the 4th again?

 

Still doesn't change how in this game Wilson did virtually nothing when the outcome was in doubt, then changed. 

[mcdougal]

I guess, maybe? However, I really didn't think about it. 

 

Who was the 4th again?

 

Still doesn't change how in this game Wilson did virtually nothing when the outcome was in doubt, then changed. 

 

Teams that run read option and have mobile QBs:

 

Seahawks

49ers

Eagles

Panthers

[IGSaint]

Teams that run read option and have mobile QBs:

 

Seahawks

49ers

Eagles

Panthers

 

redskins and maybe the colts.

[Evengelion]

Russell isn't the first "dual threat" QB too win a SB.

Russell isn't the first black QB to win the SB.

Nothing will change on the perception of QBs.

Who cares about perception. It's a copycat league and the OL can only do so much with the speed of those defenses. I'm thinking on the line of a complete overhaul. As I'm typing this they're talking about this just now on NFLN. Maybe a completely new standard.

[chef17]

It doesn't matter. The argument has ALWAYS been that mobile QBs will NEVER win a SB. Wilson took practically every snap for the Seahawks this season and WON the SB as a mobile QB.

 

The argument against Cam is that he cannot win a SB because he is mobile, which if you look back at the history of mobile QBs in the NFL, they have been fairly successful given how few there are.

 

You do realize Wilson isn't the first mobile QB to win a Superbowl right?

[mcdougal]

redskins and maybe the colts.

 

If we are talking about the entire league and not just playoff NFC teams then Buff, I think the Jets with Geno did some, and the Raiders with Pryor

 

So league wide:

 

Buff

Car

Philly

NYJ

Oak

Wash

49ers

Sea

Colts 

 

9 teams...5 playoff births...1 SB...

 

However, the Redskins and Raiders were generally awful on offense...especially the Raiders under Pryor.

 

Jets were okay for what personnel they had on offense (and Geno is really not an option QB to begin with)

 

Buff was okay on offense.

[mcdougal]

You do realize Wilson isn't the first mobile QB to win a Superbowl right?

 

I do. Do you realize that as of 3 hours ago people were still saying that mobile QBs don't win SBs?

[Evengelion]

All you need to know about dual threat QBs is that the last three NFC QBs standing were dual threats. Last year (like this year) 3/6 teams in the NFC playoffs were dual threats. Every single dual threat QB has at least made it to a post season and many have at least won a game. 

 

A great number of dual threats have also made it to the SB-- including the last two.

 

Can you be The Golden Calf of Bristol out there and win a ring? Of course not, you have to be able to thrown, but this notion that dual threats cannot win a SB when McNair and McNabb and Kaepernick came within inches is downright hilarious.

 

Tonights biggest beneficiary: JOHNNY MANZIEL.

 

His agent should sent seattle and wilson a piece of his rookie deal (along with carolina and 49ers).

And it was just a matter of time since athletic QBs aren't accepting being forced to be converted to WRs. A guy like Cam could easily have been a HOF type receiver in this league. You will at some point get that 6'4 gifted passer who happens to run a 4.3. Since Cam is already in the league it won't be that big of deal.

[chef17]

I do. Do you realize that as of 3 hours ago people were still saying that mobile QBs don't win SBs?

 

And you assume Wilson winning it will change things how? Anyone who said that obviously doesn't care about being correct.

[FootballMaestro]

Teams that run read option and have mobile QBs:

 

Seahawks

49ers

Eagles

Panthers

 

You consider Foles, and his 5.1 40 time (and horrible playoff performance) mobile? Lol

[Evengelion]

You think Russell Wilson won that Super Bowl?  I don't know who Seattle's 3rd stringer is, but they would've won with him playing.  That defense and the Broncos just plain pooing the bed is what won the game for Seattle.  If anything, tonight's game was proof that defense can still win a Super Bowl in today's NFL.  Seattle's offense had done virtually nothing and the game was still already out of reach.

Well that argument can be for any game any Sunday. Team A won 24-23, team A's defense didn't give up more than 23 points. See how that work. Peyton have 4 franchise type WRs playing with him. Based on the players' likability the media will determine how to spin that. Russel was throwing darts and marching the ball down the field. I don't think they punted even once. The D scored 9 points and special team scored 7. The offense scored the rest of the points.