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thanks for the info. I found full 4/3 dawn patrol ones for 160 on a few different sites. it looks to be the best option, but according to charts I'm between sizes. I'm gonna go talk to a shop or maybe two, but your input is welcome. 6'2" and 210. 36 waist, 46 chest. it looks like an XL will work, but one site's chart says XXL. i'm also wondering about regular or tall length.