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Could Joel Embiid Fall to No.9?


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#1 carolina-chuck

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:41 AM

Adrian Wojnarowski ✔ @WojYahooNBA
Cleveland doctors discovered right foot injury in exams and passed info onto Embiid reps, sources tell Yahoo. Fear is a right foot fracture.
12:54 PM - 19 Jun 2014


(Anonymous NBA GM)
“I think there is a point at which you use a pick on him, where you’re hoping maybe these are just fluke things that are not going to be recurring,” one general manager told Sporting News. “But that point is not in the Top 5 or so. You can't use a Top 5 pick. I think there are too many other good options there to think about using the pick on one who has these injury problems.”


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The news that Kansas center Joel Embiid has a stress fracture in the navicular bone in his right foot will have a significant impact on next week's NBA draft. Embiid, the projected No. 1 pick in SI.com's latest mock draft, is expected to slip several spots, maybe more.

"With that type of injury," said a Western Conference executive, "I wouldn't take him in the top-ten."

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:46 AM

Not sure I would want to draft him even at 9.

Didn't a similar injury end Yao Ming's career?

Edited by teeray, 20 June 2014 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:49 AM

Not sure I would want to draft him even at 9.

Didn't a similar injury end Yao Ming'a career?


Damn, is it?

I know it's a different injury than Noel last year, but I wouldn't doubt it could drop him down. Tho, I would still take him at 9.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:53 AM

Damn, is it?

I know it's a different injury than Noel last year, but I wouldn't doubt it could drop him down. Tho, I would still take him at 9.

Yeah its what yao had. But oddly I'm more comfortable taking him at 9 since he COULD be a rim protector than taking McDermott.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:53 AM

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:03 AM

It is still worth the risk since we have two first rounders.

As opposed to Noel, Embid has a wayyy more NBA ready game and size.

Yes it could be horrible bc stress fractures in the feet of 7 footers are not ideal.. But this is the Hornet Karma!! We get a pick at 9 outta nowhere and now a top 3 pick may fall bc of a sudden injury..


With that said he will not make it to 9.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:04 AM

Stress fractures on the feet of big men can be devastating and can alter or end their entire careers.

Big Z had one and still had productive career though.

But you are talking now about drafting a guy that may rarely see the court or have a short career or will never be the same athletically.

He very well may slide out of the top 10. This is a serious injury and often times when big men get stress fractures it happens time and time again.

Bill Walton I think only played a handful of games over 4 years because of foot problems similar to this.

If I were GM I am not sure I could justify taking him until mid teens or so.

Edited by teeray, 20 June 2014 - 10:06 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:10 AM

I would still take him even if he won't see the court at all this upcoming season.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:15 AM

I would still take him even if he won't see the court at all this upcoming season.

I mean at all ever

And even if he does he may not be the same player

Edited by teeray, 20 June 2014 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:27 AM

Embiid's ceiling is too much to pass on if he gets to nine, injury aside. Besides, it's not like there's a real consensus on what to do at nine anyway.

That said, this would be like getting Star in the second round.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:28 AM

One of the problems is that stress fractures which are created by over use or weakened bones, in athletes in track and field and basketball or other running and jumping sports, run a risk of being recurring injuries.  That risk goes up even more when you are talking about big men.

 

That is another reason why this is so risky.  He may not have much of a career.

 

It is however, possible that that he heals and is fine and has a career with no problems.

 

The risk is drafting a guy that never really plays or has to have minutes and practice time managed to prevent over use of his feet.

 

I don't know.  I just would be scared to take this guy in the top 10.  once you get to 14/15 then you have to consider risk reward.  But in top 10 there are good players with less risk.

 

 


Edited by teeray, 20 June 2014 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:30 AM

Having said all that, I think someone will draft him before us.  We haven't even had our team doctors look at him either.  Sometimes you can tell if a person is likely to have these be a recurring problem, so hopefully our team doctors are on top of it..

 

 If we do draft him I will hope for the best though.


Edited by teeray, 20 June 2014 - 10:31 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:33 AM

So the guy has already had back issues and now foot issues. Why would anyone want this guy in the first round. Doesn't matter how much talent a person has if they are hurt all the time. All of ya'll preaching that this is a sure fire can't miss player are about to eat crow bc he will not amount to much more then a journeyman due to injuries. Ya'll never think about someone jumping to the NBA to get paid before getting hurt.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:43 AM

Cleveland's doctors already examined him right?  If they pass on him, we need to do the same.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:48 AM

I think I'd be willing to take the chance assuming none of the other guys fall to us. Having said that I don't think he makes it to #9


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