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Soooo... which RB will Hurney be selecting in round 1?

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On 1/19/2018 at 2:06 PM, AU-panther said:

I really think we might. 

Several reasons why:

Turner's offense needs one.

Looks like there are several that might carry high enough grades to be considered where we are picking.

Rookie RBs usually contribute quicker then other positions.  Important when you might be on a one year interview.

 

Good point.  I think a first rounder is the pick if Hurney releases Stewart, which is probably something he should do if you look at production.  However, that usually means  Stewart will get a 6-year extension at $8m per and join Jake Delhomme and Charles Johnson in the HURNEY RING OF HONOR. 

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On 1/19/2018 at 8:31 PM, theballboy said:

Michel will be a problem in the NFL. With a strong combine, I wouldnt Be surprise seeing him go in the 1st

Completely agree. Some are speaking of a power back like the back has to be only good at running between the tackles to complement CMac. Sony can run between the tackles, has an uncanny burst for the home run, and is a better blocker and receiver than Chubb. A complete back like him gives nothing away in terms of playcalling vs. CMac or both being on the field. That’s what I want. And I’m willing to take it in the late 1st RD or early 2nd if we trade back.

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Hurney has been gold in the 1st and 2nd rounds for the most part. I hope we will draft Sony Michel at some point in the draft. 

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1 hour ago, Malt Liquor said:

Hurney has been gold in the 1st and 2nd rounds for the most part. I hope we will draft Sony Michel at some point in the draft. 

Hurney gold in the second round?

You sure about that?

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11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hurney gold in the second round?

You sure about that?

people don’t remember how poo this guy was

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22 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

people don’t remember how poo this guy was

I mean yeah he's nothing special but at least we know he drafts better than Gettleman. At least we can count on a good 1st rounder.

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25 minutes ago, The Natural said:

I mean yeah he's nothing special but at least we know he drafts better than Gettleman. At least we can count on a good 1st rounder.

 And 80% of the players selected after that selling insurance two years later. 

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Why does everything have to be a pissing match of one upping failures between DG, and Hurney?

We need better than what both have offered here over the years.

We came close with Gettleman, but like Hurney, ultimately he couldn't get out of his own way. If there are people from either side of the spectrum who can't at least admit this, they are beyond reasoning with.

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8 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Why does everything have to be a pissing match of one upping failures between DG, and Hurney?

We need better than what both have offered here over the years.

We came close with Gettleman, but like Hurney, ultimately he couldn't get out of his own way. If there are people from either side of the spectrum who can't at least admit this, they are beyond reasoning with.

Exactly. I've BEEN preaching this! It's absolutely possible for them to both suck, and that's the case. It's not some weird vacuum where it's only possible that one has to be good and the other bad.

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30 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Exactly. I've BEEN preaching this! It's absolutely possible for them to both suck, and that's the case. It's not some weird vacuum where it's only possible that one has to be good and the other bad.

Well, there's one slight flaw with that idea...

It's wrong, and frankly kind of dumb.

Gettleman certainly wasn't perfect, and no one is claiming that he was. He made mistakes just like even the best of them will do. I've never seen a GM not make mistakes. And even guys like Ozzie Newsome occasionally make some moves that leave you shaking your head.

But the plain fact that nobody can dispute without spinning harder than a tornado is that Gettleman led us through the most successful period in franchise history. The only way that you can push Hurney as being even close to equal (forget better, there is no argument for that) is to try and steer the discussion toward something other than success on the field or claim all the success centers around one or two players that came from Hurney. Both of those are dumbass arguments.

We've basically got three types of people here who still argue for Hurney: People who like to argue just to be dicks, people who are fans of certain players more than the actual team and people who either just don't understand football or are in fact, genuinely stupid.

Gettleman isn't the best GM in NFL history, but he's easily the best GM this franchise has ever had. And the sad reality of it all is, if our owner wasn't a lecherous numbskull, we'd still have him instead of round two with the nimrod who only managed three winning seasons out of eleven.

Right now, I'm hoping for a better GM in the future, and hoping that future doesn't take long to get here.

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We haven't had a "best GM in franchise history " yet.

If DG was the best GM this franchise ever had, he wouldn't have handed Matt Kalil a blank check, and watched Ted Ginn walk to NO for peanuts and let his team proceed to beat us 3 times in one season.

Weren't you one of those "Hurneymagic" guys years ago Scot? I definitely recall seeing you use the phrase a few times. You can deny it if you want. *shrug*

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12 minutes ago, TheRed said:

We haven't had a "best GM in franchise history yet".

If DG was the best GM this franchise ever had, he wouldn't have handed Matt Kalil a blank check, and watched Ted Ginn walk to NO for peanuts and let his team proceed to beat us 3 times in one season.

Weren't you one of those "Hurneymagic" guys years ago Scot? I definitely recall seeing you use the phrase a few times. You can deny it if you want. *shrug*

You want to talk to me about consistency, Red? :)

Truth be told though, I've never denied that I was behind Hurney early on. But then after we started falling off, I began having questions.

And then one day, for reasons that had nothing to do with arguing about the GM, I looked over our entire draft history under Hurney. I remember saying to myself, "Good grief, I had no idea we were doing this badly." Actually posted that on the Huddle too. Took some additional time to look into his resume' and found out that he never even been so much as a scout.

Oddly enough, that revelation is actually what led me to start researching potential coaches and GMs.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

You want to talk to me about consistency, Red? :)

Truth be told though, I've never denied that I was behind Hurney early on. But then after we started falling off, I began having questions.

And then one day, for reasons that had nothing to do with arguing about the GM, I looked over our entire draft history under Hurney. I remember saying to myself, "Good grief, I had no idea we were doing this badly." Actually posted that on the Huddle too. Took some additional time to look into his resume' and found out that he never even been so much as a scout.

Oddly enough, that revelation is actually what led me to start researching potential coaches and GMs.

Let's just dispense with the dick swinging.

So point blank. Do you agree or disagree with the statement that moving forward, we need better than what both DG and Hurney have brought to us over the years? Yes or no?

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Just now, TheRed said:

Let's just dispense with the dick swinging.

So point blank. Do you agree or disagree with the statement that moving forward, we need better than what both DG and Hurney have brought to us over the years? Yes or no?

We haven't won a Super Bowl yet.

I want us to win one.

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24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Well, there's one slight flaw with that idea...

It's wrong, and frankly kind of dumb.

Gettleman certainly wasn't perfect, and no one is claiming that he was. He made mistakes just like even the best of them will do. I've never seen a GM not make mistakes. And even guys like Ozzie Newsome occasionally make some moves that leave you shaking your head.

But the plain fact that nobody can dispute without spinning harder than a tornado is that Gettleman led us through the most successful period in franchise history. The only way that you can push Hurney as being even close to equal (forget better, there is no argument for that) is to try and steer the discussion toward something other than success on the field or claim all the success centers around one or two players that came from Hurney. Both of those are dumbass arguments.

We've basically got three types of people here who still argue for Hurney: People who like to argue just to be dicks, people who are fans of certain players more than the actual team and people who either just don't understand football or are in fact, genuinely stupid.

Gettleman isn't the best GM in NFL history, but he's easily the best GM this franchise has ever had. And the sad reality of it all is, if our owner wasn't a lecherous numbskull, we'd still have him instead of round two with the nimrod who only managed three winning seasons out of eleven.

Right now, I'm hoping for a better GM in the future, and hoping that future doesn't take long to get here.

For such an old ass dude you are extremely short sighted. Gettleman brought Short and Turner here. That was his best additions as a GM. Star has been less than a star. Kelvin looked like Tarzan, played like Jane. Shaq has played more like Kwame, and Vernon Butler might as well be Vernon the janitor from your place of employment.

You talking about stupid? Goddamn man open your eyes. 

Teams are built through the draft. Gettleman set our team back a couple of years.

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