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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:17 AM

Not rubbing it in guys (you know that isn't my style) but I gotta ask...

What... :confused:

#2 Jangler

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:20 AM

Not a true Bears fan.(there is one in the family) But I'm gonna say Orton's ankle screwed up the whole season.

#3 Epistaxis

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:20 AM

A very average team, unable to make the big play, win the big game, etc.

The failure starts at the top, with an inability to recognize talent, and an inability to develop that talent once it got here.

They took a once in a lifetime KR talent and made him a mediocre WR.
Invested huge sums of money in an aging defense.
Started guys that were clearly outperformed by other players, and only grudging or after injury put them in the right position.
Lovie Smith has "his guys".....and no dissenting voice can be heard. He is too far away now in SD.
They got lucky with Forte, and had to ride him like a rented mule after not recognizing the glaring need at WR.

Bottom line.....they outperformed my expectations, as I had them at 4-5 wins this season.
But when the opportunity of a down division presents itself....you have to take advantage, and the Bears did not do this.

I believe the Texans are a better football team than the Bears, and they proved it.
And I think the Texans are getting better, while the Bears are getting worse, despite the improvement in record over last year.

#4 Delhommey

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 09:39 AM

There was a big contigent of Bears fans behind us at the books today.

The general reaction was relief that the inevitable happened.

#5 Mr. Scot

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:51 AM

A very average team, unable to make the big play, win the big game, etc.

The failure starts at the top, with an inability to recognize talent, and an inability to develop that talent once it got here.

They took a once in a lifetime KR talent and made him a mediocre WR.
Invested huge sums of money in an aging defense.
Started guys that were clearly outperformed by other players, and only grudging or after injury put them in the right position.
Lovie Smith has "his guys".....and no dissenting voice can be heard. He is too far away now in SD.
They got lucky with Forte, and had to ride him like a rented mule after not recognizing the glaring need at WR.

Bottom line.....they outperformed my expectations, as I had them at 4-5 wins this season.
But when the opportunity of a down division presents itself....you have to take advantage, and the Bears did not do this.

I believe the Texans are a better football team than the Bears, and they proved it.
And I think the Texans are getting better, while the Bears are getting worse, despite the improvement in record over last year.

Ouch.

I know the Bears have not traditionally been a great passing team. It's always been the 'run game/defense' profile, but for that to work these days you do need to have some kind of passing threat.

Has Smith bought so much into the 'Bears mystique' that he thinks he can do without those things or is it just a case of missing on personnel decisions (and perhaps being too stubborn to admit it)?

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:00 PM

Give the Texans credit. They have a strong offense

#7 Mr. Scot

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:04 PM

I can grant that. Steve Slaton made a lot better transition to the pros than I thought he would (at least so far).

But the Bears looked really tough in the early part of the season. What happened between then and now?

#8 Epistaxis

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 01:58 PM

They missed on personnel decisions, and aside from Forte can't hang the proverbial hat on any offensive high round draft picks.

The aging OL performed beyond my wildest expectations, but Orton struggled after his injury, and you'd be hard pressed to find a WR with #1 go-to pedigree.

Hester is VERY rough right now.

The defense generated little to no pressure on the QB from the front 4, which is an absolute must when you play cover 2 30% of the time.

The DB's were below average, and when Brown went down last week, you got to see what happens when less intelligent football players are required to recognize where to be in the scheme.

Again, a failure from top to bottom, and sadly I see the arrow on the Bears pointing downward, while the arrow for the Vikings and Packers appears to be pointing up.

The Blackhawks look pretty good all of a sudden!

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 02:16 PM

at least they found a QB

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 02:37 PM

He's just ok.

And for a franchise that holds Sid Luckman up as the best in its long history....bad.

I like QB's that can WIN a game for you.

Kyle is good, not great.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 02:46 PM

Forte was a great find, but what in the world have they done in the draft as of late..?

Also, I think that everyone in the NFL knows including the Bears players, that they are a very cheap org. Not the best title when you are a FA looking for a decent payday.

The bears fill the stands because they are the bears, and ownership knows this, and does not have to spend the money for a fantastic team.

#12 AKPantherFan

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 02:50 PM

Not a true Bears fan.(there is one in the family) But I'm gonna say Orton screwed up the whole season.


Fixed....

I dont think Orton could even crack a starting job on another team, icluding the lions.









































and holy poo 1,600+ post *****!!!!!!! lol lol

#13 Epistaxis

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 04:04 PM

Forte was a great find, but what in the world have they done in the draft as of late..?

Also, I think that everyone in the NFL knows including the Bears players, that they are a very cheap org. Not the best title when you are a FA looking for a decent payday.

The bears fill the stands because they are the bears, and ownership knows this, and does not have to spend the money for a fantastic team.


1st part- true, drafting offense has been very bad

2nd part- false, cheap....no. Spent unwisely....yes. Check yo facts befo yo misspeak.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:02 PM

2nd part- false, cheap....no. Spent unwisely....yes. Check yo facts befo yo misspeak.


For sure. Pretty much ever since Jerry Angelo took over personnel decisions, the Bears have been more than willing to dole out cash

#15 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:42 PM

Seems like the Bears would have had a pretty decent receiving group had they kept Berrian?


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