Special Teams 08 vs 07, or Danny Crossman II
Posted 30 December 2008 - 03:59 PM
Compiled from different locations of nfl.com, along with my calculator. It's not just Rhys Lloyd that is making the difference, although he was a key piece in allowing us to maintain field position. No one thing other than the touchbacks is really that different, but it all adds up over the course of a game to a significant advantage IMO, especially when coupled with a ball control offense. It actually won a couple of games for us this time around, whereas last year.. not so much. It's pretty obvious that after improving the running game, our 2nd priority this offseason was to improve special teams all the way around. A telltale of this is how vigorously we pursued a returner after losing our first two and firing another couple. Curry was kept instead of Shaw (Curry was better that Shaw on ST, but Shaw could actually play linebacker in a pinch and was not that bad on ST). There are several other examples of this (Wesley,etc.) The right talent was brought in, kept and coached up to make this happen. I say we go ahead and take Crossman's head off the chopping block, as everything has improved.
2008 - 28 of 31 FGs, 46 of 46 PATs, 0 blocked
2007 - 24 of 28 FGs, 27 of 27 PATs, 0 blocked
2008 - 44.1 avg, 56% were returned for a 6.7 yd avg, 3 blocked, 1 ret for TD
2007 - 43.9 avg, 60% were returned for a 10.5 yd avg, 0 blocked, 1 ret for TD
It shold be noted here that without Kasay's 2 pooch punts, the 2007 return avg is 9.0, no TDs and the punting avg is over 44
2008 - 66.8 yd avg, 66% were returned for a 21.9 yd avg, 30 of 90 were touchbacks, 1 out of bounds (Kasay)
2007 - 61.2 yd avg, 94% were returned for a 23.8 yd avg, 4 of 66 were touchbacks, 6 out of bounds (Kasay 5, Baker 1)
Let me bottom line this one:
Avg yard line start from kickoffs: 2008 = 20.3, 2007 = 27.6
(note - I didn't go to the game logs and average every kickoff start position, I took the average landing point (-1.8 yd line for 08) and added in the return average to get a yard line for the returned kickoffs, then added in the OOBs and TBs starting yard lines and averaged the whole thing. I know it's not as accurate, but it should be pretty close)
2008 - 53% were returned for a 10.8 yd avg, 20 of 80 FC, 0 fumbles
2007 - 42% were returned for an 8.4 yd avg 19 of 72 FC, 2 fumbles
2008 - 22.9 yd avg, 0 fumbles
2007 - 19.1 yd avg, 1 fumble
It should also be noted that special teams had a some block/forced fumbles in both years, but those stats weren't readily available, so I didn't include them.
Posted 30 December 2008 - 04:34 PM
Posted 30 December 2008 - 04:45 PM
Posted 30 December 2008 - 05:53 PM
while he hasn't had the greatest personel, like gamble at PR, he really has done a bad job in at least one aspect of ST every year since his mentor left
I understand keeping him for this big year we had, but hopefully the success we have had this year gives john fox some security to find somebody better
Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:03 PM
Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:17 PM
Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:33 PM
every stat is better? 3 blocks this year 0 last??? lloyd and jones have saved his ass, thats it.
At least things like that were fixed during the season, unlike in years past.
Posted 30 December 2008 - 07:08 PM
Ok, just so I understand, he gets the blame when things go bad, but none of the credit when things go well?
You are catching on.